Thursday, May 31, 2012

TOUR 2012?

I had thought that my previous post would be the last actual post on this blog. But I met with the guy who is working on my new website yesterday and it seems like a few more things have to be fixed before we can go live at the new website. So I'm going to leave you with at least one more thing here. Which is about my upcoming travels.

The map above is the basic route I will be following when I make my journey across these United States. You can click on any of these maps to enlarge them. I will leave Akron on June 15th and arrive in Knoxville later that day where I'll meet up with my dad and my sister. Then my dad and I will head for Dallas a little bit later. Maybe the next day. Maybe two days after. Maybe three. We don't know yet.

Here's where you come in. I have already accepted a speaking gig in Las Cruces, New Mexico (the date has yet to be finalized). It occurred to me that I might be able to fit in a couple other speaking gigs on the way out to California.

In order for me to make it to any venue that might want to have me, the venue would have to be able to schedule the talk for sometime after June 17th and definitely before the first week of July is over. We'd need to coordinate with the people in Las Cruces in case there's any conflict. And you'd have to be somewhere on or at least not too far off the route you see on the map above.

For example, Nashville, Memphis, Little Rock, Tuscon and Phoenix (among many others) are all on the route I'm taking. Atlanta, Chattanooga, Birmingham, Shreveport, Oklahoma City, Austin, and Lubbock (among many others) are not on my route but are not inconceivably far off of it. Omaha is too far. Denver might be do-able, but it's a pretty long way from where I want to be. You get the idea, I hope.

This may not work out at all. The time frame is short. It's really hard to say with these things. But if you're interested in trying, please send me an email at spoozilla@gmail.com.

I'm specifically looking for speaking gigs or one-day retreat type things. I probably can't accept your kind offer to meet up for coffee. I would consider places that might offer me a couch for the night, though we'd have to see if that kind of thing would work out with the schedule and what-not.

***

People in the comments section seem concerned about the new website, especially its comments section. I'm talking to the guy who is doing all the tech stuff about various options. I do like the free-form feel of the current comments section in principle. But in actual practice, it often just gets screwy in there. What I'm hoping to do is have some kind of free-form area of the new site where people can post whatever they like as well as an area where people who actually want to discuss serious stuff can go. I'm not sure if this will be possible or not. That's what most of the discussion last night was about.

Personally, the comments section can get very taxing for me. I don't think a lot of the commenters understand that I am an actual human being just like them. The mean nasty hurtful stuff does actually hurt me sometimes. If I were Rush Limbaugh or Howard Stern and I got paid big money to be the target of abuse by strangers, that would be a different matter. Or if I felt there was some way in which my being a punching bag helped the dharma somehow, that would also be different. Or even if I were just a guy who enjoys arguing with people... But I am none of these things. And other people get abused in there as well. It's really sad. So the comments section as it stands now often devolves into a big, depressing energy suck that has no value at all for me. Sorry to say this. But it's the truth.

It's not always that way. In fact sometimes it's really good and stimulating. But as it stands now it's just too prone to running itself into spasms of stupidity. I want to find a way to allow a good, stimulating space for real conversations to happen that I can involve myself in, while simultaneously having another section where people can go nuts. I would probably never even set foot in the go-nuts section .

I started moderating the comments section on the last post and all kinds of people are sending in comments screeching about "censorship" and "the truth." Look, folks. It's just the comments section of a blog. There's nothing in the Constitution guaranteeing you the right to vent in there. Please just try to relax a little. Maybe do some zazen instead. Or if you want a blog to vent on, start your own. It's easy and it's free. No one will stop you. No one will censor you or moderate you.

According to Blogger's statistics, over 52,000 comments have appeared on this blog since it started. Fifty two thousand! My God. That's a lot. A lot of people have used this space as a way to broadcast their opinions. And a lot have abused the privilege. The comments section of this blog is so notorious that Tricycle magazine singled it out in a piece called Dharma Wars about the way Buddhist blogging often gets out of hand. And they were right to do so. Some of what's gone on in the comments section of this blog is really shameful and embarrassing.

I have really done a lot to allow for an open forum. And it has come at a cost to me in headaches and heartaches.  So please understand why the new website will be different in this regard.

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Anonymous said...

1 ?

Best wishes for your new website & move!

Anonymous said...

I still think this comment section is karmically what you get for being such an ass toward Genpo Roshi. And the fact that you think he is an ass doesn't really excuse your assness, just like the way your ebay mistake doesn't excuse that guy from being an ass towards you.

Good idea to make a freeforall section of your new website. Call it 'the toilet'. But then again, just don't have it at all. Have a moderated forum with useful discussion about zen etc. Just like you might moderate your own critical expression towards others.

That's just this reader's 2p. I think you're a generally nice guy who has some personality defects, as we all do.

genjipress.com said...

Looking forward to the new website, Brad -- and yes, I know how it goes with comments. I have a small but fortunately very ruly (as opposed to unruly) group of regular posters on my own little corner of the web, but every now and then someone decides to get uppity. I let them post anyway unless they're blatantly attacking someone else in the post (I don't mind them attacking me, you see), but I've seen how the comments section of any blog can become a cesspool. Do what you have to, and don't let the twits derails you.

Brad Warner said...

I still think this comment section is karmically what you get for being such an ass toward Genpo Roshi.

Possibly. But I don't post anything on Genpo's blog (if he even has one).

Anonymous said...

Brad,

Have you ever scratched your taint area and given it a good sniff? I'm being serious here. You're a fine writer and I trust that you could give a VERY vivid description of the process.

Can you at least try it for us? It would make a hell of a good blog post for you!

Anonymous said...

Possibly. But I don't post anything on Genpo's blog (if he even has one).

Point well taken.

nonymous Texan said...

You're coming to Dallas? I'm 30-something miles away from Dallas! Where are you going to be speaking there? I'll come and watch (and laugh where appropriate and clap, etc.).

Brad Warner said...

You're coming to Dallas? I'm 30-something miles away from Dallas! Where are you going to be speaking there? I'll come and watch (and laugh where appropriate and clap, etc.).

I'm not going to Dallas for a speaking gig. Just to visit my dad. But if a gig came up, that would be very easy to do.

Brad Warner said...

Have you ever scratched your taint area and given it a good sniff? I'm being serious here. You're a fine writer and I trust that you could give a VERY vivid description of the process.

Gross. Seriously.

Michael Gibbs said...

Congrats on the upcoming website, Brad.

Anonymous said...

Hey Brad:

I've taken your comments on this blog entry seriously and must say that I'm saddened to read that you've suffered because of the comments section. It actually puts this in a different light for me.

Now I'm sure that you're not claiming that you cry yourself to sleep over this or anything, but I'm a regular reader of yours and the person that I've imagined you are would not be bothered to the extent that you'd mention it in a post. That you have really opens my eyes.

And I'm sorry for any/all of my posts here that may have caused you any pain at all.

Artful Lawyer said...

Best wishes, and I'll keep reading. I'm bummed that I never caught your speaking visits to Michigan but hey, I'm late for a visit to Cali anyway.

Sebastian Ramirez said...

Fantastic. You know we only have good positive energy and bean burritos for you here in El Paso/Las Cruces. -Japanese sword guy Sebastian-

Rich G. said...

Your tech guy could install forum software on your website. Many of them (like PHPBB) are free, highly configurable, offer word filtering (to keep people from cussing like drunken sailors), etc. I'm sure you could talk a couple of your friends into being admins. That way, you could have a constructive place to talk about things while deterring the haters. And, if people get carried away, you can delete their user accounts and/or block their IP addresses. Problem solved, at no cost to you. :-)

Alan_A said...

Good on you for the change in comment policy.

Mark Foote said...

I'd suggest you offer rules of the road at the top of the comment section of your new blog, and in addition to the standard stuff, why not say that sexual harassment even as a joke will not be published?

Anonymous said...

I don't post anything on Genpo's blog

Doug said...

Hey Brad,

Thanks for the update and I'm looking forward to the new blog, whatever format that is in. I keep thinking about trying to finds a way to see you speak, but I'm in Halifax, Nova Scotia right now, and the Mid-West is a hard-to-justify plane ride away.

Anyways, maybe we could chat about you coming here to speak in the fall. It's nice here then, and there are lots of students, and lots of Buddhists / Punk Rockers, alternative art school types of various flavours that might come and hear you speak. Chohyam Trumpa moved his headquarters here in the 80s and there is a small Soto Zen group here. Although I am one of those beginner Buddhists that has not found a teacher, yet.

Anyways, I'll send you an email as well. Safe and healthy travels.

Brad Warner said...

And I'm sorry for any/all of my posts here that may have caused you any pain at all.

Thanks. And you're right. I've never cried over any of the comments. And I can usually laugh them off.

But as a human being I am hard wired to respond to criticism. We are social animals. We have a deep need to be accepted by the group even if we deny that we do (and I deny it a lot). We know instinctively that our survival depends upon it. This kind of response is not something you can turn off. You can suppress it. But that creates another set of difficulties.

People tend to imagine that a person who does a lot of meditation develops this kind of aloof detachedness. But that's not really true. That's just the Hollywood image.

Keith Suranna said...

Hey Brad,

I agree with your comments on the comments. I certainly don't post a lot, usually only when I particularly like something that you've written. But I do read some of the other comments (and skip many others).

I'm looking forward to your new site. Good luck with it!

Mysterion said...

you notice the total comments at my "postulates" blog = 0

that is no accident.

I see you are taking the southern route...

good luck with that!

Anonymous said...

Mysterion said...
you notice the total comments at my "postulates" blog = 0


you notice the total views at my "postulates" blog = 0

FTFY


CAPTCHA = oximeth 24

Fan said...

Have you ever scratched your taint area and given it a good sniff? I'm being serious here. You're a fine writer and I trust that you could give a VERY vivid description of the process.

Dude you again made my day! This is so funny! ;)

Voie de Vie said...

As a new reader to your blog, I must admit I'm thrilled you'll be doing something different with the comments section of the new blog. Someone above mentioned software - also, don't allow anonymous posters (which I'm certain the software will take care of).

And skip the free-for-all section. This is *your* little piece of the blogosphere; as you have demonstrated (via the Dharma Wars piece), its influence is greater than the sum of its parts. I'd like to see all of the parts step up their individual game. :)

gniz said...

Hey Brad, as one of your biggest trolls--and most long standing--I hope I haven't given you too many pangs from my comments.

I'd like to think my comments haven't quite fit into the sort of nasty vitriol that I've seen here from time to time--but maybe that's made them worse in some ways.

In any case, I wholly respect your right not to subject yourself to unnecessary abuse and criticism, even as I caution that going too far in the other direction might be even worse for you in other ways...

I've always found your writing to be engaging, I think the comments section here has created a bizarre but sometimes helpful community, and there may be ways to turn it to good use for everyone involved.

Hope your trip goes well.

Best.

Misha said...

Safe travels, Brad, and may your journey west bring you wellness, happiness and peace, as well as new Dharma gates being opened for you.

I may have one that occasionally offered "constructive criticism," but that's only because I feel you have the intellectual and scrivener chops to do more/better than some of what you've been doing. Kind of a better Bodhisattva ideal. Maybe a few nights at Barney's Beanery will inspire you to greater heights.:)

As for karma and Genpo, you have probably been too kind on Genpo. Zen and Buddhism in general need more ethical leaders, not "Zen Master" charlatans. If your karma was affected by your Genpo comments, you likely have earned some merit.

Khru said...

I've enjoyed reading the "free-flowing" spirit of the comment section but many have been down-right mean, IMHO.

People who behave like this on a blog (somewhere out in cyber-space) would never have the balls to say the same hurtful things to your face.

That being said, I stand by all my comments...sans the Vegas post about the cowboys.

Anonymous said...

I vote that you allow the pervert guy continue to post with impunity.

And yes, I get it that this isn't a democracy. Nevertheless, the pervert is integral to your message here.

I like the pervert, Seagal Rinpoche, Gniz and several others. I don't enjoy reading that an3drew guy's posts and I'm not a big fan of Mysterion, though I believe that I'd very much like Mysterion in real life.

Fred said...

I always assumed that you never
responded to any vitriol aimed
your way because you had done the
work to disconnect from the petty
plane of reality.

Manny Furious said...

Suggestion:

Have people register and have them agree to a terms of usage. Then, when they violate those terms, you can terminate their account.

Personally, I'm indifferent to this whole thing. I find this comment section can be, at times, very stimulating and rewarding to waste my time with. Typically I ignore all the B.S. and other stuff that isn't a good waste of time, but it sucks that some of what goes down hurts you Brad. As for the people bitching about "truth" and "freedom of speech" or whatever, who gives a shit? What kind of people are we dealing with if being censored on a blog (a highly personal blog at that)is cause for bloody revolution in their minds? My guess is they are people not worth wasting much mind on.

Either way, good luck with the new site and I'll be reading....

Jinzang said...

Have you ever scratched your taint area and given it a good sniff?

Gross. Seriously.


Probably some homeopath with an interest in Zen trying to verify your remedy.

Anonymous said...

If you want a distorted view just imbue Tricycle with some authority. I think it would be only slightly less damaging than handing it over to the "mental health professionals" trolling for patients at a certain New York location. Certainly cheaper anyways.

I've always preferred 2-ply to glossy.

Anonymous said...

Brad, I've said things that have probably hurt you. I've never done it to hurt you, and I'm sorry if it has. I give you no worse than I give my best friends, and I do it, I think, with great compassion. You've got flaws, like all of us. You talk about yours more than the average spiritual huckster (kidding!). That's very admirable. But, imo, the flaws you don't talk about, the ones you don't seem to recognize, are where I think you can use a spiritual friend, and that's where I come in. You're welcome, buddy. : )

Please put a toilet in the new site. Just like this place, but not tied to your post -- one long, continuous stream of crap. You could "probably even never go in" (I'll see you there). I'd miss this old girl.

Drive safe, Brad, and reality-speed.

Leah said...

Best wishes for your new blog setup.

Just a thought about having a separate spot for people who want to go crazy with comments: what about a separate forum attached to the blog? There are a bunch of freebies like Simple Press. Stuff you can pay for (nicer) like vbulletin. Your designer will no doubt know all about it (very easy to set up simple press, for example). Just a thought.

Good luck!

anonymous anonymous said...

Khru is mysterion.

Mysterion said...

Pageview chart 27670 pageviews

you are correct

the twenty seven thousand six hundred seventy actually ends with a "0"

amazing

Mysterion's Postulates
Pageview chart 27670 pageviews - 221 posts, last published on May 30, 2012

SunamiSue said...

I agree with everthing you have said about the comment section. I think the anonymity of the internet often brings out the lesser of people better nature...it's too bad,kinda like when you flip someone off in a car on a highway but then realize they are getting off at the same rest stop as you...oops...but there seems to be no reckoning here. BRAVO!

Anonymous said...

Mysterion's Postulates
Pageview chart 27670 pageviews - 221 posts, last published on May 30, 2012


Fucks given = zero

Mark Foote said...

The person leaving the sexual harassment jokes === the persons who say they like the sexual harassment jokes.

If it were me, Brad, I think I would have pursued a WordPress site for the new blog on GoDaddy. That way you could pretty much handle all the details yourself, even if somebody else did the initial setup. The WordPress software is open source, and they have good software. An example WordPress website with a blog would be here (that's my website).

Anonymous said...

"Sexual harrassment jokes"???

Jeez. Unreal.

Anonymous said...

A samurai once asked Zen Master Hakuin where he would go after he died.
Hakuin answered 'How am I supposed to know?'
'How do you not know? You're a Zen master!' exclaimed the samurai. 'Yes, but not a dead one,' Hakuin answered.



Practical Strategies to Combat Faith with Dr. Peter Boghossian


http://nepafreethought.org/podcast/episode?p=12

an3drew said...

brad you are a fake as a zen teacher( not that 99.99% of the rest aren't) and i as the only zen patriarch alive today and therefore most senior zen person am specifically sacking you out of zen, that's entirely out of zen, not even as an acolyte


excommunicated in a word!


i do feel this is in your best interest and you are better to take another direction in your life even at this late stage, i don't suppose you will, sense or realism about life doesn't seem to be your strong point !


anyway i am not going to unsack you, but you have an opportunity to show you are not a complete cotcase by not deleting this post like you did this koan i posted !!!!!!!!!!!


of course you are a F A K E like the rest so i will be surprised to S E E I T


basically you are just subsidizing everybody else with your life which is abit of a sick space to be in as i know from my own ongoing experience!!!!


the trick is to get something out of it for yourself, but you lack the smarts or ability to do that, so it's better you are out of the toxic cesspit of zen !

Anonymous said...

"Don't bite the finger. Look to where it's pointing."

Anonymous said...

Hey Brad,

When you're in Dallas, why not interview former Jesuit priest
now Zen teacher Ruben Habito for your upcoming book on
God and Zen? And then while you're at it, when you arrive in
LA, why not interview Joshu Sasaki for your book as well?

(I'd pay good money for those interviews ;)

Good Luck!

Anonymous said...

"I don't think a lot of the commenters understand that I am an actual human being just like them. The mean nasty hurtful stuff does actually hurt me sometimes."

I have a relative who is extremely insensitive to other's feelings. She is quick to give out insults and criticism regardless of how it affects others. However, if anyone else offers even the slightest criticism towards her, she breaks down and begins to cry and moan about how they've hurt her feelings. She is oblivious to this discrepancy.

Sorry Brad, this is exactly like you. Over the years you've made hurtful comments and hurled insults at 'real human beings.' Not just Gempo either. You seem oblivious to this fact. You've often complained that what you write is wildly misunderstood...yet you've done the same thing to what other's have written. (I know this because you did this to something I wrote years ago.)

Long ago you wrote that you hope no one thinks the stuff you write is identical to 'zen', but should realize it is only your opinions. Now, you seem to have forgotten this yourself. You pass off you every opinion and personal view as 'real, authentic zen' while disparaging opposing views as 'wrong, crap, stupid, not real zen, etc'.

You recently suggested zazen was a specific posture (or group of postures) like yoga. That sitting or standing in any other way was somehow not real zazen. This is the Soto view. It is not the Rinzai view at all. Yet you suggest it is the 'zen' view.

You'll likely view this comment as a mean, vile, personal attack and cry like my relative does. But you really should turn the light back upon yourself. I say this as a longtime reader of your books and blog. I wish you luck in all of your endeavors.

david angstead said...

Hey Brad,
I know your map does not wind up to Sacramento, however if your plans change ,I would be happy to arrange an event similar to last time under the guise of Sacramento Urban Dharma.

If not, keep me posted about when you visit Tassajara again so we can book that!

Unknown said...

On your new blog, you should require commenters to register with name and working email address. The anonymous posting is the biggest problem on this blog. It's easy to take cheap shots it you don't have to identify yourself.

Anonymous said...

Sam Harris - Death and the Present Moment


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITTxTCz4Ums

Anonymous said...

So let me get this straight. You are taking a hugely popular blog, moderating the uniqueness out of it.. Making it like every other boring blog on the net. Because you.. "I just can't take the mean things people say to me, They, they said I was dishonest..."

Why believe that shit?

Brad Warner said...

Thanks An3drew! I needed to be excommunicated.

But was I ever communicated in the first place?

katageek said...

Cruelty on a blog is a result of basic sociology.

People are the most cruel when they are 1. Anonymous and 2. There is no social penalty for misbehaving.

YOU however have a high social cost if you misbehave on your blog. So ... ugh.

I think it would be cool if you did talks via "Go To Meeting" or something else. I got a lot out of the "Skeptical Buddhist Sangha" in Second Life.

If you ask the owner Starsitter Quality about doing a Shobogenzo discussion in her virtual Sangha that would be awesome.

Take a section of the Shobogenzo and discuss it in chat. AWESOME.

I remember us going over books in Second Life and the chatting format is excellent for seeing different points of view and no one can use their voice to monopolize the meeting.

You could have a gig there for a few years. . .

an3drew said...

brad, good on you for posting that and replying !

there is something to what i was saying, the next step is to start thinking about that
and not flick it off with "was i ever communicated"

in fact you accepted dharma transmission from nishijima and so are claiming transmisson which i revoke

i have also revoked genpo and jundo to be fair : o )

i guess at this point i am so involved i am starting feel insane : o )

an3drew said...

ah, the valued anonymous writes:

"I have a relative who is extremely insensitive to other's feelings. She is quick to give out insults and criticism regardless of how it affects others. However, if anyone else offers even the slightest criticism towards her, she breaks down and begins to cry and moan about how they've hurt her feelings. She is oblivious to this discrepancy"

in other words she is female apsergers syndrome just like you are male aspergers syndrome, well probably austistic in fact like you, myself and brad warner and the remainder of the morons who post here !

it's not zen but autism and autistic spectrum that explains things,

sadly

over

well

in

fact!

Tyler Byrne said...

Mr. Warner,

I have been reading your books for years and have found them to be extremely helpful in my daily life.

I have also been periodically dropping by this blog to see what there was to see, but I never read the comments section. Now I'm glad I didn't.

I am shocked (shocked I tell you!) at the level of puerile immaturity in many of the posts, and also taken aback by how mean-spirited or even just unnecessarily negative a lot of it is.

So I was motivated to actually contribute myself (which I never do on anything online, ever) to ... I don't know ... provide moral support?

Or I guess just to remind you that there are sane, reasonably well adjusted people out there who don't come to the internet to vent their inane frustrations at people they've never met. Seems like that might be easy to forget sometimes with a job like yours.

Namaste.

Anonymous said...

...there are sane, reasonably well adjusted people out there who don't come to the internet to vent their inane frustrations at people they've never met. Seems like that might be easy to forget sometimes with a job like yours.

Anonymous said...


I have also been periodically dropping by this blog to see what there was to see, but I never read the comments section. Now I'm glad I didn't.

I am shocked (shocked I tell you!) at the level of puerile immaturity in many of the posts, and also taken aback by how mean-spirited or even just unnecessarily negative a lot of it is.

So I was motivated to actually contribute myself (which I never do on anything online, ever) to ... I don't know ... provide moral support?

Or I guess just to remind you that there are sane, reasonably well adjusted people out there who don't come to the internet to vent their inane frustrations at people they've never met. Seems like that might be easy to forget sometimes with a job like yours.

Namaste.


This might shock and amaze you, but you do NOT sound balanced, mature, sane or reasonable.

You come across as judgemental and holier-than-thou.

Go sit for 8 years and come back and confess what a fool you were in June of 2012.

Anonymous said...

you accepted dharma transmission from nishijima and so are claiming transmisson which i revoke


Sort of puts you in a bad position, doesn't it, Brad? You no longer are a dharma heir of anyone.

mike said...

Looks like no one bid on the Ultraman guitar.

Way to nail it Mysterion, over $10,000 was a great estimate...lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item1c2787827c&item=120922276476&nma=true&pt=Guitar&rt=nc&si=u66G%252B0FSSqUIqBehj2tQUo%252F%252FJZk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_500wt_1413

Mysterion said...

Mike:

Your link led to"

"This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."

So Brad pulled the item before it closed (maybe he got an off-eBay offer he couldn't refuse).

My estimate of not just $10K but the uphill side of $10K stands.

Besides, I need not be right. The correct answer is - most often - not the 'right' answer.

Cheers,
Chas

Comfortably left of Joan Baez.
ref: Martin 0-45JB (Joan Baez)

Fred said...

"Mike Cross said...

an3drew, whoever you are, your comment is that of an utter twat."

That made me laugh.

Anonymous said...

Fred, noooooooooo !!!!

After posting all that wisdom you turn out to have a mean streak in you?


Welcome to HCZ!!

roman said...

OMG, i have been blind for years... now I understand the stupid people are actually stupid... for years I have tried to defend them... one of the biggest challenges of Buddhism is to find what is true and what is not... go figure... I admire Brad for his brave and complete wholehearted attitude toward the problem of truth... now that it is clear that he cannot just ingore the stupid people and is hurt bz them just like myself, I am going to thank my own blog readers for not commenting and loading the shit at my own blog... Brad, you are one of the people in the world that encourage me not to hang myself in the middle of the pretentious crowd, but yes, some people are wonderful, brilliant... we should never forget that and we should be inspired and encouraged, even master Dogen told us to do so

Anonymous said...

Roman is back!

You are not stupid by any means, thank goodness. I've been meaning to ask, is that your painting in the new photo?

Anonymous said...

When you're in Dallas, why not interview former Jesuit priest
now Zen teacher Ruben Habito for your upcoming book on
God and Zen?


I love Ruben. He's my teacher.

roman said...

Not my painting, it is a cafe I was standing in chatting to friends at the bar.

an3drew said...

what is this blog really about?

what are we doing here?

or

is

it

just

insane

universes nattering

across

to

each

other?

Roman Gabriel fan said...

What would you name your ballet inspired by the sight of children leaping through a garden sprinkler?

Children Leaping Through a Garden Splinker

Anonymous said...

I know, it's a great answer :)

Kye Sangha said...

I am very sad. Denver is so far-but if you get a gig in Albq or Santa Fe I'll travel down to see you. I get the comments. What is it with the rude-crude thing? After about 3 of those I've usually lost interest. This is comment #69. Will you even see it? Probably not, which is fine. Have good travels through the southern states, & a chili relleno for yumminess. Cheers!

Mark Foote said...

I watched the whole debate, Brad and Genpo, and I realized that I've been writing on the blog of a very, very sick puppy. Ha ha, it's the link to "a job like yours", above.

Seriously fun, I hope you and your roommate have success with your film, films even. If you need an extra, let me know; I've got a friend in L.A. and I'll come down and move my lips while you talk (you can see the back of my friend's head here).

skatemurai said...

When new website of HARDCORE ZEN will come out? Thanks for an answer, I'm looking forward to it!!! :-)

Anonymous said...

Kye Sangha said...
This is comment #69. After about 3 of those I've usually lost interest.


After about 3 times my tongue usually gets tired.

Anonymous said...

I used to read others' conversations here. Since moderation there are none.

Anonymous said...

Never mind.

Anonymous said...

"I used to read others' conversations here. Since moderation there are none."

It's not about you Anon. It's about Brad. He is in a vulnerable state. Someone questioned his integrity. It was a horrible energy drain for him. Imagine.

Anonymous said...

"This is comment #69. Will you even see it?"

God brad is that an invitation?

Is she prepared to work to support you?

Slack idle minds want to know
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Speaking of twats, Mike Cross said,
"A person who likes to discuss others' eating of puddings, or who writes poems about pudding-eating, but who fails to eat his own pudding, in my book, is an utter twat."

Anonymous said...

Speaking of pudding...

Fred said...

So what does it mean to eat your
own pudding?

Does the ego realize the ineffable?
Or does goaless practice allow
space for the ineffable to connect
with itself?

Kobun:
"It is very important to experience the complete negation of yourself, which brings you to the other side of nothing. People experience that in many ways. You go to the other side of nothing, and you are held by the hand of the absolute. You see yourself as part of the absolute, so you have no more insistence of self as yourself. You can speak of self as no-self upon the absolute."

Anonymous said...

Kobun farts through his mouth !

Fred farts through his ears !

Anonymous said...

Fred,

First of all, it doesn't "mean" anything to eat pudding. Unless you want to color code it and assign the hues to letters or numbers or something like that.

Secondly, any talk about "the ineffable" doing anything at all is complete foolishness.

You're in love with pleasurable thought. I am too!

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an3drew said...

what's wrong with zen and advaita and any religion is easily seen

because people who cannot consider that they are wrong
A R E W R O N G

can't even start to negotiate it : o (

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Anonymous said...

people who cannot consider that they are wrong
A R E W R O N G

can't even start to negotiate it : o (


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Hmmm... Andrew are you sure you're right about this?

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well you're saying that people who can't consider they are wrong are right?

surely the process of considering you're wrong is part of the process of being right?

strange as this idea will seem to you lot of black and white

and

terminal

shallowness! .............

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an3drew, I think you're wrong about being right about people who think they are right being wrong.

Here's a guy who clearly knows he's right:

'Therefore the left leg is traditionally placed on the top. (8) Though the half-lotus position is acceptable, it is better to sit in the full lotus position (kekkafuza, Jap.) if it is possible for you. However, it is difficult and beginners in meditation quickly become very uncomfortable while sitting in this manner. In my temple, each individual sits in the way that is most comfortable for him. In other temples, one should ask permission if one wishes to sit in the half-lotus position, with the right leg on top.'

(Rindo Fujimoto Roshi, The Way of Zazen)

Here's Mr. Brad Warner, sitting with his left leg on top, trying to persuade Genpo SockMonkey of the error of the "no leg on top" posture.

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Fred said...

Anon
You miss the gist of what Mister
Cross is saying. But that's OK.

As for the Ineffable, that's OK too.

Seeing is seeing; and words are
words.

Anonymous said...

And pudding is pudding.

Have you considered that maybe you are wrong?

Anonymous said...

OH anonymoys, you are the fool. If you don't eat your meat, how can you have any pudding? How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?

an3drew said...

mark, why are people who do zazen so narrow and rigid, they are uncultured slobs who can't hold a reasonable conversation that shows any real knowledge of the world!

why would anyone deliberately restrict the circulation below the knee like that, s o o o dangerous to the circulation?

do you ever wonder about your own obvious limitedness?

an3drew said...

fred mike cross is a crazy schizophrenic which i don't think he needs to be !

how anyone can go through life doing half arsed translations when they have to talent to do really great ones if he'd just stop overwriting his own opinion over them all !

why not see your own craziness as i am sure you are only one step outside an institution !

being crazy is necessary from a zen point of view cause you can then step outside the boundaries but you stay in the wrong boundaries (self imposed knowledge you think you have about zen) and won't step out of the conventional zen advaita crap !

kobun was not enlightened by the way, just a better grasp than usual

Mark Foote said...

an3drew said:

'mark, why are people who do zazen so narrow and rigid, they are uncultured slobs who can't hold a reasonable conversation that shows any real knowledge of the world!'

(rhetorical, but yer right: seemingly certified transmission holders often hide their own inability to put words to experience behind 'mind-to-mind transmission outside of scriptures', as though the Gautamid would have left us all better off had he remained silent)


'why would anyone deliberately restrict the circulation below the knee like that, s o o o dangerous to the circulation?'

yer right, if the circulation is restricted that would be dangerous. Uchiyama drank three shots of whiskey a night to restore the circulation in his legs (and he smoked, now that's dangerous!). If I sat 14 50-minute periods of zazen a day for weeks on end as they do sometimes at Antaiji, kekkafuza or not, three shots of whiskey would likely not suffice. I think it's interesting that they sit so much zazen at the monastery that follows Dogen's Zanmai o zanmai prescription (as though to make up for the things that other monasteries do that they don't):

'My former master, the old buddha, said,

“Studying Zen is body and mind sloughed off. You get it only by just sitting; you don’t need to burn incense, make prostrations, recollect the buddha, practice repentence, or look at scripture.”'


'do you ever wonder about your own obvious limitedness?'

Yes I do. Especially when I still have some numbness in the upper foot getting up from the lotus, which is frequently. I do also have sittings where I get up after 40 minutes with full feeling, often now. I wrote about what I feel is a turning point for me, recently; that's here if you want to read about it.

I was talking to a friend about waking up and falling asleep last night, and he said he had read someone saying that's all we really do in this life. I had to agree.

Doing nothing is the slippery like an elm, everywhere like on the tips of the thousand blades of grass, and easy like eating when I'm hungry- ha ha!

an3drew said...

reply to mark

Anonymous said...

99

an3drew said...

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anonymous anonymous said...

Andrew is the original counting guy.

Mark Foote said...

thanks for the reply, an3drew.

Somebody asked me what I meant by "waking up and falling asleep"; my reply is here, and because I know that folks would rather scroll than anything in the world, I'm going to copy it in below. An3drew, this is how I sit and so far have been lucky enough to avoid injury (or stroke), knock on wood:

"When I'm falling asleep, I generally have a few moments where my mind seems to be shifting around in my body, right before I drop off. This is probably more apparent when I've had enough sleep so that I'm lying there in bed wondering if I'm going to get to sleep, what a luxury that is!

Because I know that I have to let go of any direction of mind in order to fall asleep, I tend to turn my attention to where my thoughts just took place, to where my awareness is in my body. That's when maybe I'll experience my consciousness taking place somewhere other than between my ears. This is not usually a continuous thing, but a now here, now there, in my side, in my leg, in my back thing. And then I'm out like a light.

I occasionally come to the same experience in the daytime, which is why I think it's about waking up as well as falling asleep. There's a sensation of my balance being dependent on where my consciousness is taking place, in an upright posture.

I read about hypnic jerk phenomena the other day, that's where the muscles in the arms or legs contract just as a person is dropping off to sleep, and they wake up. The article I read said about 70% of the people experience this regularly, and they hypothesized that the mind feels the loss of motor ability but doesn't recognize that it's connected with sleep, and so tries to regain motor ability with a signal to the muscles. I guess what I'm talking about is connected with that same shut-off of motor ability, and the trick is to perceive consciousness taking place without motor ability."
(Yers Truly, from Zazen Notes- anybody can comment on Zazen Notes, register and respond to the registration email and I look forward to hearing from you!)

Anonymous said...

anonymous anonymous said...
Andrew is the original counting guy.


Don't be silly. An3drew doesn't count.

Anonymous said...

That's right, because An3drew spells it out - very clearly!

Fred said...

"I was talking to a friend about waking up and falling asleep last night, and he said he had read someone saying that's all we really do in this life. I had to agree."

Waking up from a dream to enter
another dream involving the ego and
its trance.

Fred said...

"Anonymous said...
And pudding is pudding.

Have you considered that maybe you are wrong?"

There is no you and there is no
wrong.

Anonymous said...

That is funny, it's like the Zen version of "I know you are but what am I?"

I know you're not and neither am I

:p

Anonymous said...

When you wake you're still in a dream.

Anonymous said...

So where is the new blog then?

an3drew said...

fred writes:

"Waking up from a dream to enter
another dream involving the ego and
its trance."

same with mark, you are both trotting out the cliches !

if you are in contact with buddha, don't you think he can spare a few original thoughts!

guess what

he

can!

that you are not in contact is shown by your constant regurgitation of cliches !

J U S T S A Y S O M E T H I N G Y O U U N D E R S T A N D I N Y O U O W N W O R D S F R O M Y O U R O W N E X P E R I E N C E !

Anonymous said...

Hey An3drew, try this one out...

Imagine you are in your house and looking outside through a window. In a similar way, you are looking outside right now through the holes in your eyes. But where are you looking *from* ?

an3drew said...

i actually think you guys use zazen like a hypnotic drug, keeps you from thinking and examining your lives (let's be honest, failures) in a real way !

you avoid the notion of failure, but failure is the lense through which life is revealed in it's true forms!

an3drew said...

reply to anonymouse

Anonymous said...

you're a nice guy andrew :)

impactednurse.com said...

Actually an3drew, I have been working in a major metropolitan emergency department for 28 years, so I think I have a pretty good handle on the dimensions thank you.

an3drew said...

impacted nurse, do you?

is the system spitting you out now you are less use to it?

why does your blog read like an advertisement for nursing?

cynicism is a healthy development as one grows older btw!

an3drew said...

i'm going to try this one

"i have lived for so many years and think i have apretty good handle on life : o )"

impactednurse.com said...

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Anonymous said...

(that means he's washing his hands.)

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Don’t start everything right,
Here you know,
Not the pen and ink
Got married.
I’m so smart –
So short means:
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To eat.
Have spaghetti
No meat balls,
Fried shrimp,
One piece.
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That’s how yah
Tool,
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Find out what happened.
Are you comin’ with me?
If you will hand it over.
My attention span
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I’m gunna help.
What do you say?
What are we waiting for?
Look who’s here,
Your thinking
Other
Points of view.

There’s some new fish
Operating on the windows.
I’m a fish.
Don’t get angry.
It’s a trap:
Indulge
Mathematics.
That’s how much a subscription costs,
One fifth of your brain power.
Think you can do it,
Cover his adventures,
Idea?
Use some coffee.
I thought I’d just hope for a second.
Very nice,
We certainly went out.
We did a little.
That’s it,
Pull the rabbit.
One more thing,
If you don’t hear from me
The government
Tackle it.
It just kills me.
Gotta go.

A poet in India read.
Why should we read?
Had the lipstick on
For a better future than what we have now.
Advanced search option,
You’ll be alright.
Did I know that guy?
How could he get here?
The net Jay jihad push,
It’s the horror.
Are you kidding me?
Check this out:
I got an idea
Blog worthy,
Put on social media.
We don’t want you to have that idea –
The police.
Do we
Stop this?
Now where’s conscience?
On the count of three roll over.
Why won’t anybody stick,
Stick their neck out?
I am the sound equipment.
Let’s hear it.
And another thing you’re watching.
Don’t you even dare
Say it.
Certain situations
Can’t include here you know.
Just gunna cap it off.
Why don’t you come over life?

Gets yah home.
It’s a long effort.
Don’t skip the reason please,
42.
42?
It’s messed up,
Head count.
Why don’t you leave me alone?
Thank you.
Would you like my toenail clippers?
End the poem.
Indeed.
Oh God.
What did he look like?
Did he look like …
Can we go?
Policeman, pow!
This available?
Wherever you read it.
Jason wasting my time in my tuition dream?
He’s coming into both of them,
Thirty seconds,
Eight hours,
Grand Theft Auto.
Whoa.
That’s the equipment leader.
They want to end the poem.

I’m just lookin’ for a
Thinkable.
Alright,
There’s too many of us,
Too many.
What are we going to do?
Give me that –
The product of the new government.
Who is he?
Go ask yourself.
Careful now,
Locators.
I’ll bet
We’re under control:
Log in and register to post.
Who’s the new government?
That would be you.
The attention span,
Oh boy,
The pressure is ours.

a poet in India

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