Sunday, December 25, 2011

A Christmas Stocking Type Jumble of Unrelated Ideas

Merry Christmas everybody!

Or if you don't do Christmas Happy Kwanza, Hanukkah, Ramadan, Festivus, Rohatsu or whatever.

I'm down in Dallas where, yesterday, I attempted to visit the Occupy Dallas movement with my dad. Only when we got to where they're supposed to be at the time they're supposed to meet there was nobody around. Maybe they take Christmas Eve off. So we went and saw the new Sherlock Holmes movie instead. It was good. But we also saw J. Edgar, the Clint Eastwood movie about J. Edgar Hoover. That was better. We didn't see both movies on the same day.

I have mixed feelings about the whole "Occupy Wherever" movement. I'm glad it's there. I'm glad people are expressing an opinion about how totally fucked the current system is. On the other hand, the message seems a bit muddled. And, as it always is, the movement is pretty much dominated by a certain type of person. It's hard to define the personality type that always takes over these things. But you know them when you encounter them. They're sort of loud and cranky and convinced of their eternal rightness. I find those people incredibly annoying most of the time.

I like these protesters better. Seriously.



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For those who are interested in understanding what Nishijima Roshi, my teacher, is on about when he talks about the Sympathetic and the Parasympathetic nervous systems here is a little animation for you that explains it all (or at least one aspect of it all). It's called Prickles and Goo. Take a look:



You'll note that this animation is by Trey Parker & Matt Stone, creators of South Park, and that the audio is from a lecture by Alan Watts. None of these people have any connection at all with Nishijima Roshi nor do the terms "symapthetic nervous system" or "parasympathetic nervous system" appear anywhere in this piece. And yet Alan Watts is saying exactly, precisely and unmistakably the very same thing as Nishijima.

To translate this into Nishijima's terms, "prickly" = "sympathetic nervous system" and "gooey" = "parasympathetic nervous system."

We choose the words we feel most comfortable with to explain the things we think are important. Nishijima Roshi was always, in Alan Watts' terms, more of a "prickly" person. So he chose a prickly way of expressing himself. He used scientific terminology. This got him some criticism from others more prickly than himself because Nishijima used prickly terminology in a gooey way. And in the world of prickles, being the least bit gooey is not allowed.

Watts, being a gooey sort, chose a gooey way of expressing the same idea. In the world of goo it's more acceptable to be slightly prickly.

Here are some more good cartoons (the opening, by the way, expresses exactly how I feel about my own work):



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Finally, here is a really good article from Cracked.com that you may enjoy.

Have a wonderful holiday season everybody!

172 comments:

Jamie said...

Merry, merry. Stay awesome Brad.

PhilBob-SquareHead said...

I was listening to an Alan Watts discussion on meditation just an hour ago while travelling to pick up my son for xmas vacation!. Wow, synchronicity again!

Merry Christmas Brad :)

(I'm sure ol' Mysterion will have something negative to say, he don't like Watts.)

Uku said...

Tits! Oh, I love tits!

Mr. Reee said...

Merry Winter! (as in Johnny and Edgar)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nrkvfKKCmY

Re: occupy, I've had the opportunity to see it evolve up close and personal in Oakland (right across the street from my day job) and the thing that struck me is how the movement has been portrayed by the media--there's a lot of disinformation out there about who is in 'Occupy' and what their 'demands' are.

As always, if you want to know the truth, you need to check it out for yourself (like zazen) -- reading about it only gives you someone else's view.

I'll keep my view short--the movement is called 'Occupy Wall Street' --Wall Street. Most seem to be focusing on the Occupy part and they (both media and protesters) are forgetting about the Wall Street part.

And if you want to know what's really wrong with Wall Street (the investment bankers), I can heartily recommend the following folks, who predate the Occupy movement and are largely made up of insiders who are reporting on the slow-motion demise of the global economic system:

http://www.zerohedge.com/

It's no surprise there's an OWS movement--what is surprising is how little info actually gets out to the public via the media about the breadth and depth of the financial scams unfolding around the world.

Bloke said...

1/2
The whole problem with Nishijima's ANS stuff is that his science is wrong and it doesn't help Zen. Alan Watts is talking about something completely different ant it only sounds similar because you don't understand the science.

Imagine the SNS and PNS as a tug-o-war team. It is balanced if there are 1,2,3,4 or 5 players on each team. It is unbalanced if there are different numbers of members on each team. However, if both teams are pulling against each other it doesn't matter how many you have on each side, it may be balanced it is still not functioning correctly. It is in fact unbalanced. The teams are fighting each other.

Now in a healthy BALANCED system the SNS and PNS basically take it in turns - one team tugs on the rope and they shuffle sideways so that the tension is maintained but it's not too taught. At night one team wins, in the morning another team wins. If a tiger runs towards you then one team wins big time and you run away.

Your SNS/PNS system can be totally fucked up or working normally and still have nothing to do with Zen. Mine's been messed up for some time and it's finally returning to normality. Finally the two teams are able to take it in turns more and they have the same number of players on each team. But that's got nothing directly to do with Zen - there's no causal link proven.

Instead we have something called "The Brain" which can impact directly on the SNS/PNS in the same way as the SNS/PNS impacts on the brain. If I imagine a tiger charging towards me (or watch a nature program) the brain processes this stuff and tells the teams of the SNS/PNS which way to pull.

Now let's look at the Alan Watt's stuff which is beautifully clear.

There are several ways of perceiving and relating to the world. One way is logical and conceptual - 'prickly' - and one is wholistic and fluid and non-separateness - 'gooey'.

Some people are naturally 'gooey' and don't make enough use of their 'prickly' perceiving. Others are naturally 'prickly' and don't make enough use of 'goey' perceiving. One mode of perception can inhibit the other. One mode could be called 'relative' and the other 'absolute' . Neither mode of perception is 'right' or 'wrong'. Neither mode of itself is ideal.

Bloke said...

2/2


What Zen DOES DO by various means is firstly encourage the dis-inhibition of the 'gooey' holistic perception and a corresponding inhibition of the 'prickly' subject-object perception. The first thing Zen does is to get both perceptual systems working correctly and taking turns when appropriate. Just because I feel at one with your girlfriend doesn't mean that it's OK for me to fuck her.

Eventually over time these two systems of perception learn to collaborate properly and perception changes so that the world is prickly-gooey and goey-prickly. An integrated viewpoint. I may now feel at one with your girlfriend but I also recognise that I'm separate from her and that since she is your girlfriend I don't get to fuck her.

Lot's of Zen teachers seem to fall down at this point - being suckered into believing that perceiving something makes it real or morally acceptable. That's the cost of ignoring the 'prickly' side of perception.

Your modes of perception can be balanced and your ANS totally messed up. Your ANS can be balanced and your modes of perception not.

Lots of systems in the body work in this antagonistic way. My arm muscles are balanced by opposing muscles. Does that mean they have anything to do with Zen?

What Alan Watts has done makes sense - he's talking about PERCEPTION. What Nishijima has done does not - he's talking about basic biology that has been misunderstood and bolting onto Zen in a way that doesn't help.

To confuse matters more it is probably the case that lots of Zen practice will result in a balanced ANS but that is a side-effect of everything else that happens as perceptions are corrected and the mind allows the body to relax. For in the end begin self-conscious and defensive and wanting to understand everything is driven by fear and fear pushes the ANS to be unbalanced.

The word 'balanced' sucks. It's simplistic and wrong. 'Explaining' Zen sucks too. You can go look at a wiring diagram of the brain and the rest of the body and ask "What COULD zazen be doing". It will not help.

The whole MMK debacle is about this prickly/gooey thing. The MMK is unashamedly gooey and does it by proving the limits of pricklyism.

Nishijima is so obsessed by 'understanding' Zen by using junk science that he doesn't understand that Zen is not meant to be understood in this way. It's meant to be grokked if anything.

We can say nothing about Nagarjuna's ANS but we can see from what he wrote that he clearly understood the prickly world and the gooey world and could move freely between them. The MMK uses language in very clear and precise ways to show that language has limits and does not explain the world, merely labels it. Nishijima merely changes the labels for ones he likes. It doesn't help and entirely misses the point.

Merry Christmas!

Brad Warner said...

I think Watts' genius was in using words like prickly and gooey that he could define himself. Nishijima's mistake was to use words which prickly people already have prickly definitions of. This just opens him up to the kind of criticism you've just demonstrated.

Still Nishijima was saying the same thing as Alan Watts.

new2zen said...

But will zazen make my system less nervous?

element said...

Since a few months I practice autogenic training. Teachers and books say similar things about the nervous system like Nishijima.
By practing it, I agree, it is a more or less balanced state - not the extremes.

The Wikipedia article says it like that, though the prickly types need a citation:

Effects of autogenic training

Autogenic Training restores the balance between the activity of the sympathetic (flight or fight) and the parasympathetic (rest and digest) branches of the autonomic nervous system.[citation needed] This has important health benefits, as the parasympathetic activity promotes digestion and bowel movements, lowers the blood pressure, slows the heart rate, and promotes the functions of the immune system.[citation needed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogenic_training

Brad, maybe your father knows more about this method?

Uku said...

Brad wrote: Nishijima's mistake was to use words which prickly people already have prickly definitions of. This just opens him up to the kind of criticism you've just demonstrated.

Just my deluded thoughts but I don't see Nishijima's words as mistakes. I really think his decision to use words ANS, SNS, PNS is great, because they're challenging people. And criticism? Who cares. There are a lot of people who have received a lot of help from his theories, including me. ANS theory is genius. I think this world needs more modern explanations instead of insert your bullshit Buddhist quotes in here.

And I love tits.

Brad Warner said...

We all love tits, Markus.

Thanks.

And yes, "mistake" is a relative term. Some people appreciate the use of words like SNS and PNS because it removes the mysticism. I know I did.

It's all just words when you get down to it.

Brad Warner said...

Mr Reese said:

As always, if you want to know the truth, you need to check it out for yourself (like zazen) -- reading about it only gives you someone else's view.

That's why I went down there. But they were all at home!

I'd go looking for Occupy Akron. But I doubt there's anyplace to occupy.

Just (really great) Words said...

The Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara, from the deep course of Prajna wisdom, saw clearly that all five skandhas were empty, thus sundered all bonds of suffering.

Sariputra, know then: form does not differ from emptiness, nor does emptiness differ from form. Form is no other than emptiness, emptiness no other than form. The same is true of feelings, perceptions, impulses and consciousness.

Sariputra, all dharmas are marked with emptiness. None are born or die, nor are they defiled or immaculate, nor do they wax or wane. Therefore, where there is emptiness, there is no form, no feeling, no perception, no impulse, nor is there consciousness. No eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, or mind. No color, sound, smell, taste, touch, or object of mind. There is no domain of sight nor even domain of mind consciousness. There is no ignorance nor is there ceasing of ignorance. There is no withering, no death, nor is there ceasing of withering and death. There is no suffering, or cause of suffering, or cease in suffering, or path to lead from suffering. There is no cognition, nor even attainment.

So know that the Bodhisattva, indifferent to any kind of attainment whatsoever but dwelling in Prajna wisdom, is freed of any thought covering, get rid of the fear bred by it, has overcome what can upset and in the end reaches utmost Nirvana. All Buddhas of past and present, and Buddhas of future time, through faith in Prajna wisdom, come to full and perfect Enlightenment.

Therefore, one should know the Prajna paramita as the mantra of great knowledge, the miraculous, the utmost, the unequalled mantra, whose words relieve all suffering. This is highest wisdom, true beyond all doubt.

Know then and proclaim the Prajna paramita mantra. It spells like this:

Gate, gate, paragate, parasamgate, bodhi svaha !
( Gone, gone, gone beyond, gone altogether beyond, Bodhi, rejoice ! )

JayZ said...

Alan whats?
Alan who?

Bloke said...

He may mean it but he doesnt't say it.

"Pass the salt" works if everyone agrees on both what the words point to and the context which gives meaning to the words.

If you choose to use words to explain things then use the words in a way that is different to everyone else then that is a problem. If you create words you get to define them like Dogen and Watts do.

If you attempt to redefine words like The Red Queen does then you run into two issues the most fundamental of which is that you do not show whether you've understood the meaning of the words you are attempting to redefine or the thing which you have understood and are attempting to explain by redefining words.

Nishijima may have understood these things but he's not able to demonstrate it by using a frame-of-reference other than his own. Watts and Nagarjuna both demonstrated understanding by being able to use an arbitrary frame of reference - language.

The labels are not the things but if you cannot stick suitable labels on the things you have not shown that you have understood either the things or the labels.

If what you say is true then Nishijima as the goey bit nailed but not integrated with the prickly stuff hence the mess. That I can believe because the gooey evidence is visible in his heirs like you.

But by choosing to argue prickly he chooses to be assessed prickly.

Nagarjuna can clearly do both. Nishijima does not appear to be able to do so. Language is arbitrary but works because people .....

Bored now.

Your Dad said...

bloke blurped: Nagarjuna can clearly do both. Nishijima does not appear to be able to do so.

your mom does not appear to be able to do so!

Mr. Reee said...

Brad-San said: "That's why I went down there. But they were all at home!

I'd go looking for Occupy Akron. But I doubt there's anyplace to occupy"

Akron's gotta have a contingent somewhere--haven't they taken a big hit in this economy?

In any case, my guess: Wait for spring. Warmer weather and if the seers at zerohedge are correct, the Eurozone will be a smoldering economic crater (and who knows what'll happen to the U.S. economy...) Maybe people will be talking about Wall Street again?

Or we all might be glued to the boob tube watching the latest reality TV show (I love that contradiction.)

Stay warm, y'all.

Mark Foote said...

Element, thanks for the link on autogenic training. Some great history there. I didn't use the "warm" patter but I sure used the "arm is heavy", etc. bit, for self-hypnosis in high school!

Bloke, yer right, well-put, Nishijima doesn't elaborate on how his understanding can be applied. Then again, we know that it's not really possible to apply any understanding in practice; as the ancestor put it, it's not that there's no practice, it's that practice is undefiled, meaning to me there can be no intent.

Having said which, I wonder if the use of "warm" in autogenic training is intended to engage SNS- I read that SNS can constrict blood vessels, which would affect warm/cold- whereas the "arm is heavy" in autogenic training is to engage PNS (PNS is responsible for "rest and digest" activities)?

I have mentioned before that the mainstay of my practice, when such exists, is reciprocal innervation of agonist/antagonist muscle pairs through activity associated with the occurrence of consciousness. Consciousness occurs in connection with sense organ and sense object, that is the Gautamid's teaching (and the continuity of consciousness is illusory). There is impact associated with consciousness, and as a result of impact feeling, that's also the Gautamid's teaching. When the pleasant and painful enter back into the place of occurrence of consciousness, then the hypnogogic state becomes sufficient to sustain an awareness of reciprocal innervation- that's the best explanation I have.

I put it this way, with regard to Dogen's "One sage clarified True Mind (Reality) when he saw peach blossoms and another realized the Way when he heard the sound of tile hitting a bamboo"- is it not consciousness, impact, and feeling that breathes at the sight of blossoms?

That would be the two aspects of the autonomic nervous system attaining balance right there, impact and breath, through the place of occurrence of consciousness (with respect to the senses). Ok, a stretch; merry Christmas!

Mr. Reee said...

Oh, and the Alan Watts vids are cool (yay South Park.)

I wonder if Art Clokey, the creator of Gumby, was a fan of Watts and Buddha? Remember his Prickle and Goo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3iVfq47H_k

Seagal Rinpoche said...

Seek refuge with the Three Jewels, fulfill all moral precepts, and do not lower your dignity or neglect any ceremonial observance.

Anonymous said...

Isn't the ANS stuff similar to what Dr. Rick Hanson of Buddha Brain talks about?

Unknown said...

The autonomic nervous system conveys sensory impulses from the blood vessels, the heart and all of the organs in the chest, abdomen and pelvis through nerves to other parts of the brain (mainly the medulla, pons and hypothalamus).

These impulses often do not reach our consciousness, but elicit largely automatic or reflex responses through the efferent autonomic nerves, thereby eliciting appropriate reactions of the heart, the vascular system, and all the organs of the body to variations in environmental temperature, posture, food intake, stressful experiences and other changes to which all individuals are exposed.

Brad's Dad said...

Hey, Fuck this oligarchy!

Dallas-based Zen practitioner said...

David Chadwick was in Dallas over Christmas too! Did you guys meet up and invade a zendo or anything?

Mysterion said...

I really liked Watts until I was 14. Then, as I grew into a prickly detailist, I found him gooey and shallow.

Alan Watts is not BAD, he's just a "spiritual entertainer." (We have a saying in latin...) WE?

Among his BEST riffs was one about why "the universe has no point for existence."

- it just doesn't.

See also "The Houseboat Summit."

Alan Wilson Watts (1915-1973) was an ordained Episcopal priest. He was never 'ordained' as a Zen monk and wrote of Zen and Buddhism from an academic point of view as a humorist. He was also a careful listener and quick learner (when he was sober).

He is one of the IMPORTANT NAMES IN THE HISTORY OF ZEN IN AMERICA.

One among many.

D.T. Suzuki: student of Soyen Shaku
1897 came to U.S. to work with Paul Carus (LaSalle, Ill.)
1907 back to Japan
1911 married Beatrice Lane
1936 lectured in England, met Alan Watts

Mysterion said...

When Alan Watts was 21, he met the great Buddhist scholar D.T. Suzuki. 21 is a good age to meet a great scholar. You are mature enough to take seriously that which you are told in sincerity and yet critical enough (in most cases) to filter out the BULLSHIT of jest.

Zenleo said...

Who gives a flying fuck at a rolling donut?? Oh was that too prickly?

I do dig the Ukrainian woman and their message.

Cheers!

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Anonymous said...

Irrelevant.

Three "Genpo" posts, a track listing of all your appearances, a casual aside about Occupy Dallas punctuated with pornography and goofy illustrations of How-Reality-Works.

More bullshit from "Buddhism."

Khru said...

Sweet baby Jesus, Mary, and Joseph...this thread has turned into caramelized Christmas comment crap.

Anonymous said...

Uku wrote: Just my deluded thoughts but I don't see Nishijima's words as mistakes. I really think his decision to use words ANS, SNS, PNS is great, because they're challenging people. And criticism? Who cares.

In a similar way that Gempo roshi is using the word Zen to challenge people. Critisism? Who cares!

Me, that’s who. I care for the correct use of words for the reason that without commonly defined meaning we don’t have a shared language and can no longer engage in conversations. Be they about tits or zen.

I especially detest it when religious/newage/postmodernist people try to hijack scientific terminology - and misrepresent it - to push their own views forward. This just confuses people, who think it must be true because it sounds scientific, and angers scientists because they see quantum used as psychobabble for everything. Same goes here for neurological terminology.

I think Bloke was the first sane poster about Nishijima's ANS/PNS/SNS in this blog. Ever.

Bloke said...

Of course hen I said "Red Queen" I meant Humpty Dumpty. I did this either to allow for debte and criticism or because the white rabbit brainwashed me.


"When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master— that's all."

anon #108 said...

I am not a scientist and I'm not interested enough in the scientific truth of Gudo's ANS theory to read up on lots of stuff about it. When I hear the criticisms of others my feeling is that his theory, scientifically speaking, is most likely naive and flawed.

So if Gudo's intention is to make a breakthrough contribution to the science of Zen, then Gudo may die a failure. But I don’t believe that’s Gudo's intention. Gudo is a very old Japanese prickly who when he was younger understood something about various expressions of dualism and stumbled on an explanation. His explanation may be naive and flawed, but it has the merit of relating goo-ey things like goo and prickles to the prickly nuts-and-bolts of the body – which is itself a pretty prickly idea. But that’s ok, because the ANS thing is only one aspect of the prickly part (there's also a gooey part) of Gudo's 'Three Philosophies, One Reality' model; a profound and valuable model...as models go. Gudo's contribution to Buddhism is IMO great, even if he is the world's worst translator and scientist. For me, it's the bigger picture that means something, not whether the details qualify Gudo as a suitable candidate for the Nobel prize for neurobiology.

*BTW, Brad, I think you got it the wrong way round: “To translate this into Nishijima's terms, "prickly" = "sympathetic nervous system" and "gooey" = "parasympathetic nervous system." But Gudo says “…when people have a stronger SNS they are prone to be idealistic, and when people have a stronger PNS they are prone to be materialistic.” Goo = idealism, and prickles = materialism, no? Whatever…

Very entertaining post, Brad.

anon #108 said...

Alan Watts is WAY cool.

I shall not countenance one single disapproving word appertaining thereunto.

Brad Warner said...

Oh my God Anon #108! I think I did get that backwards! Thanks.

Brad Warner said...

Three "Genpo" posts, a track listing of all your appearances, a casual aside about Occupy Dallas punctuated with pornography and goofy illustrations of How-Reality-Works.

Your mom is a casual aside!

And by the way there was no pornography in this post.

SquareBob-PhilHead said...

"I am not a scientist and I'm not interested enough in the scientific truth of Gudo's ANS theory to read up on lots of stuff about it. When I hear the criticisms of others my feeling is that his theory, scientifically speaking, is most likely naive and flawed."

No fair-minded skeptic, you. Let's all grade Nishijima's paper and declare him stupid!

Mysterion said...

Alam Watts grew KPFA (20 years) and saved KQED from an early death. THAT, he did.

Watts audio HERE

tattoozen said...

Don't screw prickly chicks. Their insides will grind your member up into something resembling an Owens sausage. Trust me. I learned this the hard way.

PhilBob-SquareHead said...

That post 3 back was not me. I love Gudo Nishijima, have corresponded with him on a couple of occasions and think that his 3 philosophies-1 reality is genius.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the guy was trying to trick anyone into thinking it was you, Mr. Ego. I should know, because it was me.

anon #108 said...

In response to something I wrote, someone calling themselves SquareBob-PhilHead (latterly and allegedly anonymous @9am) wrote: "No fair-minded skeptic, you. Let's all grade Nishijima's paper and declare him stupid!"

I'm not sure I entirely catch your drift. Would you care to explain your point in a little more detail?

Alternatively...May I venture to suggest that your mother is a no fair-minded skeptic and declare her stupid? Thank you.

Anonymous said...

That's what your Mom said.

Mysterion said...
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Correcting Mysterion said...

Or you can just take out the "is."

proulx michel said...

No, for one, I'd rather think that "prickly" is indeed idealistic, because this is one of the main French characteristics: preferring things as they "should" be makes the French intellectual very prickly about everything, because what they see is never correct and the possible always ought to be sacrificed to the ideal.

But, of course, some people who term themselves "materialists" are actually rather idealistic...

Anonymous said...

LOL on the grammatical suggestions for comments on this blog. Absolutely hilarious!

PhilBob-DickHead said...

I'm watching "Matlock" on TV right now. How did this show not win major awards?

Mark Foote said...

Caramalized post-baby Jesus comment, was Santa just a Siberian 'shroom shamman in disguise?

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3136.html

ok, I hope the HTML tags work, and if not I apologize for the ugly cut and paste work (but it's worth it).

Mysterion said...

Blogger Mark Foote said...
"...was Santa just a Siberian 'shroom shamman in disguise?"

I don't see why not.

Jesus could have been just another 'shroom.

Horses mouth.

Sacred Mushroom and the Cross

Mysterion said...
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Mysterion said...

I might as well mention the recent reworking of the mushroom theme...

Holy Mushroom

the book

Apparently psychedelics were common to many shamanistic religions. (are their any other kinds of religions???)

read also: "psychedelic mushrooms in Buddhist tradition"

Brad Warner said...

Y'know that guy who posts 9/11 conspiracy stuff here all the time? Well I was talking about him to my dad. And we got to discussing 9/11 in relation to my dad's experiences having been cheated by builders & construction people.

My dad advanced the theory that some of the anomalies of 9/11 (and indeed there are many) could be accounted for if the contractors who made the World Trade Center had cheated on some of the materials.

So, for example, the idea that the type of steel used in the bldg doesn't react as it did could be explained if the materials actually used in the bldg were not what they were supposed to be. It would also explain why this info has been covered up since the same contractors probably built other bldgs in NY.

I really don't care much about 9/11 conspiracy stuff. But I started wondering if anyone else has advanced this theory before. It probably would sell a few books if it were done right. Of course you might also end up on the bottom of the Hudson River in a pair of cement overshoes. So I'm not gonna write that book!

(I'm at the Detroit airport with a flight delay. Can you tell?)

Anonymous said...

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Bob the Builder said...

Got time on your hands? Why not poop out another post toot sweet then, Braddo?

Mark Foote said...
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Mark Foote said...

Interestin', Mr. Warner!

Thanks for the links, Mysterion- didn't know about John Allegro. I'm a fan of the Gospel of Thomas-

"They said to Him: Shall we then, being children,
enter the Kingdom? Jesus said to them:
When you make the two one, and
when you make the inner as the outer
and the outer as the inner and the above
as the below, and when
you make the male and the female into a single one,
so that the male will not be male and
the female (not) be female, when you make
eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand
in the place of a hand, and a foot in the place
of a foot, (and) an image in the place of an image,
then shall you enter [the Kingdom]."

(The Gospel According to Thomas, coptic text established and translated by A. Guillaumont, H.-CH. Puech, G. Quispel, W. Till and Yassah ‘Abd Al Masih, pg 18-19 log. 22, ©1959 E. J. Brill)

Not the mushroom, there, to me.

Anonymous said...

here's a goood cover

Mysterion said...

Gospel of Thomas

PBS

Nag Hammadi

Oxyrhynchus, Egypt [a PDF]

The Gospel of Thomas is the most authentic and therefore most universally rejected document in early Christendom. Dating from the mid to late 2nd Cent. CE, ancient versions have been found in three locations! It also has parallels to the earlier Buddhist wisdom collections.

The problem with Thomas is that it is a "Wisdom Collection" and opens a door that Fish(man) could have been a Buddhist - perhaps from Taxila.

see also HERE

It was the site of a Buddhist College beginning circa 300 - 200 BCE and lasting almost into the emergence of Islam.

I think that the myth of Jesus is based on Buddhist influence in Jerusalem.

"But as Philo, Milman, Tytler, and other eminent authors show they held all the doctrines of Buddhism, we assume they were a Buddhist sect. Hence, when we speak of Christianity growing out of Buddhism, in Chapter XXXII, we mean Buddhism under the name of Essenism. We believe Christianity is from Essenism and Buddhism both, because they are essentially one; and that Christianity is merely a continuation of Buddhism as taught by the Essenian sect of Buddhists. Hence we have sometimes used the term Essenism, and sometimes the term Buddhism, as being the fountain head of Christianity." source

Fred said...

The balanced state transcends the
ANS eventualy like the unity of
form and emptiness where each flows
into each other.

There is no suffering, because
suffering is just a viewpoint.
Whether you live or die is irrelevant, and Alan Watts was a
genius in communicating the path
past the Buddha.

Last Generation und Todesberatung said...

Check out this talk by behavioral economist Kahnemann: the experiencing self (in the here and now) versus the remembering/reflecting/deciding self. There is a lot of Buddhist insight in this:


http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html


Have a nice time
Eric, Frankfurt

Kevin said...

Happy New year - few days yet - whoops!

Zippy Rinpoche said...

Brad wrote:
And by the way there was no pornography in this post.

I agree, and I did enjoy the photo. However my boss might disagree with you. I guess I probably shouldn't be checking out your blog from work anyway.

Happy holidays, everybody!

Mark Foote said...

The link on the TED talk by Daniel Kahneman:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory.html

Mark Foote said...

Mysterion, have you seen "Indian Buddhism", by A.K. Warder?

Indian Buddhism, on Google Books

I love page 211, where the one point that could not be agreed and divided the order was whether or not an arahant could have a wet dream.

Oligarchs clearly cannot.

Anonymous said...

Brad you are a idiot: It's hard to define the personality type that always takes over these things. But you know them when you encounter them. They're sort of loud and cranky and convinced of their eternal rightness. I find those people incredibly annoying most of the time.

THIS IS COMPLETE PROJECTION

READ CHRIS HEDGES he can actually write.

your comments are so general you really should be on FoX NEWs.

Hardy Har har said...

Occupy whatever has a few legitimate concerns. Occupy Topless--rather more convincing.


to the zen of clean, efficient car-grrrls

UncleMeat said...

Watts was not a complete huckster but his American variety of zen bdh. helped usher in the new-age movement, and one might say Zen-Co. For the authentic teachings, the older philological approach to the early bdh. texts (Mueller, or Schopenhauer--the thinkers Hesse read) are probably a better starting point (and one comes to realize the pantheist roots....Bdh not defined strictly by zen or the mahayana).

Hardy Har har said...

say Nyet to mormonics invading the boodhistic realm.

Gautama wants Ann Romney's butt, and an everclear and laudanum tonic afterwards.

Gautama said...

Who wouldn't?

Hardy Har har said...

only a ~(Gautama) would dare call himself one. Smells like the old mormonic goon--and yr usual puritanical attacks on mysterion. Yet, it's Bubba Buggaly, Romneyite

G said...

Whatever, Mysterion.

Anonymous said...

Fuck you Byro, AZ acid mormon trash. GO back to the log cabin for Romney,NOW< byatch

Zen is you vamanosed, white trash hijo de puta. Capichay, you bag of filth? Read it a few times, skinhead human shit

Anonymous said...

For Brad's Dad FWIW regarding
contractors
courtesy of
Aidan Monaghan

anonymous anonymous said...

oh fuck me.. mysterion is treating us to more of his Pretaville performance "art"..

Dude is a master mason troll.

Kepler-22b said...

You mean that is mysterion at 6:04??

Anonymous said...

"For those who are interested in understanding what Nishijima Roshi, my teacher, is on about when he talks about the Sympathetic and the Parasympathetic nervous systems"

Episode 44 of the Brain Science Podcast I talk with Daniel Siegel, MD about meditation and the brain. Dr. Siegel is the author of several books including The Mindful Brain: Reflection and Attunement in the Cultivation of Well-Being. In this interview we review the scientific evidence about how mindfulness meditation changes the brain, both in terms of short term activity and in terms of long-term structural changes. The evidence is convincing that a regular mindfulness practice can be an important element of brain health.

http://www.brainsciencepodcast.com/bsp/2008/8/22/meditation-and-the-brain-with-daniel-siegel-bsp-44.html

Fred said...

Creswell:

“We found the more mindful you are, the more activation you have in the right ventrolateral prefrontal cortex and the less activation you have in the amygdala,” .

“We also saw activation in widespread centers of the prefrontal cortex for people who are high in mindfulness. This suggests people who are more mindful bring all sorts of prefrontal resources to turn down the amygdala."

I have emotions, but I am not those emotions. I have thoughts
but I am not those thoughts. I
have a body-mind, but I am not the
body-mind.

Fred said...

You can tone down the amydala by
observing what arises in the mind
by sitting or mindfulness of what
happens during daily activity, but
how does an aspirant get at the
components of subconscious/
unconscious processes and Gudo's
ANS?

Dr. ANS said...

Sit up straight, take two aspirants, and call me in the morning.

Fred said...

I'll leave that to Gimpo

Brad Warner said...

your comments are so general you really should be on FoX NEWs.

Your mom is so general she should be on FoX NEWs!

Hardy Har har said...

Kangaroo rat in Bab Bellzali's mormon-snatch.

That's the dhamma, Goon-Ron

Anonymous said...

Why does it always come down to my mom Brad? You must have a lot of mom issues. Are you still Breast feeding? IT's obvious that you ARE more of a BREAST man. I'm more of a lower area guy.

Bloke said...

anon likes feet. nothing wrong with that of course. i'm just saying..

Anonymous said...

Well yeah, there are feet...but what about SHOES! Now you're talking!

Mysterion said...
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Hardly Hardon Collider said...

Just ignore me. I'll have a complete meltdown within a few days (again), smash my new Christmas computer (again) and not be able to troll anymore until either Dad or Stepdad Steve gives me a new one for my birthday (again). Have a crappy new year (again).

Anonymous said...

Goon-Ron Bellzali pretending to be hip or intellectual again, when everything it belches gives it away. This POS (Sac tee-shirt salesboy, rassler-on-roids, sunday schooler, snitch) probably has already called the cops on
the "boodhists".

Schwarzenegger's not invited, goon

Catchers Mitt said...

Neither is your mom, nutjob.

Anonymous said...

Nor your nutjob, mom.

Hardy Har har said...

Nutjob? That's Bab's old nickname, right Byroberg, puerca?


Go back to Sac queers for Romney, basura

Anonymous said...

my mom!!!! ARggg!!! Uhgg! hot damn! motha ...fucka...

Mysterion said...
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anonymous anonymous said...

"Pick and choose Buddhism."

mysterion, no one likes proselytizing.
Buddhists usually avoid it on both sides. It's a sickness.

Mysterion said...

"no one likes..."

no one likes an ad hominem.

And don't anthropromorphize an ad hominem, it really doesn't like it!

Mark Foote said...

"everything changes, work out your own salvation".

Back to "it ain't zazen if it ain't cross-legged". Here's one I like, I penned it myself tonight on Tao Bums (another favorite forum for lunacy):

"...the mind of the lotus is somewhat unique in a proclivity to total stretch- at least it seems that way to me, from time to time."

The mind of the lotus, I stole that from Issho Fujita, when he was up at Sonoma Mountain Zen Center a year ago.

Mark Foote said...

"You can tone down the amydala by
observing what arises in the mind
by sitting or mindfulness of what
happens during daily activity, but
how does an aspirant get at the
components of subconscious/
unconscious processes and Gudo's
ANS?"- Fred

Got in the lotus, then remembered this thread.

Feldenkrais's "Awareness through Movement" points out that folks sometimes hold their breath getting out of a chair, because they hold tension related to the structural weakness of the lower spine as they rise. I am learning to trust that the location of consciousness can sit, or stand, or walk, without the exercise of volition; this for me involves something like Feldenkrais's three exercises to set up mindfulness of pitch, roll, and yaw, and a trust that what I feel can enter into the location of consciousness and act. The amygdala is involved because of the fear of falling down, and the fear of strain; the action I need comes out of the stretch of ligaments, but they have to stretch enough to produce action, and I have to trust that the feeling I get will enter into the location of consciousness and guide the action. Mindfulness of where consciousness takes place as consciousness takes place, in three dimensions, and of impact and feeling. Waking up and falling asleep, the place of occurrence of consciousness can be totally a function of SNS/PNS as in the respiration of breath and of the cranial-sacral fluid, the impact in the fascial structure can generate activity that aligns the spine in real time to open feeling, and the ability to feel creates well-being.

Anonymous said...

Guru Brad's insta-zazen for Wise Guys--

yo Toh-nee, you need to focus on your breathin' and release your inner Prajna wisdom, and the forms within emptiness will manifest dem-selves, youse better believe it

Anonymous said...

All politicians are prickly, and you're just another politician. Therefore, you're a prick.

Anonymous said...

Nannymous, What happened to all the clever nicknames you used last July during your breakdown?

john e mumbles said...

http://www.amazon.com/1Q84-Haruki-Murakami/dp/0307593312

Just read this novel has an 8-1 chance of receiving the Nobel Prize for fiction.


And surprisingly, its good, too.

Anonymous said...

Is guru Brad the "Bogus" hangin' with some mormons behind the scenes? The blowhard comments from Goon-Ron, illiterate Sacto trash( yall know who ah mean) suggest as much. Babs corpse zen

Anonymous Bob said...

Hi John E..
Got a Kindle recently so I'm always interested in hearing what's being read and what is good. The Kindle edition of 1Q84 would cost me $14.99 while a hardback copy costs $15.27. As much as I'd like to save the forests, for 28 cents difference I think I'd rather have the hard copy. Actually I'd rather have both editions but that isn't likely to happen. I think a great marketing scheme would be for someone to offer both versions for maybe $20.. Then you could read from an e-reader while your books stay unsullied.

CAPTCHA : wayst : I kid you not

john e mumbles said...

HI Anonymous Bob,
I, too, received a Kindle for Xmas, and I must say I've gone completely ape-shit crazy, searching out those golden nuggets of free e-books and frowning when they want $1.99 for something (worth far more, no doubt, it's the principal, I guess: if this or that is free, shouldn't they should all be free?).

I've also already noticed that a lot of things I would gladly try are not available at all (any William Gass, the poetry of Jim Harrison, etc.) and some, say like Rilke or Nietzsche often are available in German only...so that's pissing me off.

Another quickly obvious drawback is pagination, if its a book you want to get around in quickly and look for that one sentence that grabbed you, well, good luck.

But I love the thing, the feel, the convenience, and besides, you can get my Al-Kimia for a mere $9.99!

Confused in NY said...

Anonymous said...
"Is guru Brad the "Bogus" hangin' with some mormons behind the scenes? The blowhard comments from Goon-Ron, illiterate Sacto trash( yall know who ah mean) suggest as much. Babs corpse zen
12:29 PM"

I do not know who you mean at all, at all.

captcha = brapit

Hardy Har har said...

Rilke or Nietzsche

on BradleyBogus.com?? quatsch.


Nietzsche cared not for the boodha, anyway--some respect but thought it like Jeebusism a religion for the weak. Not unlike the Goon troll clogging up the combox with his mormon-cracker noize (tho FN knew 5-6+ languages, western history, metaphysics, bio-chem. to some degeee, etc whereas Goon-Ron hasn't got his AA in nursing yet).

Confused in NY said...

Hardy,

I don't understand what you wrote at all, at all.

"English, motherfucker, do you speak it?" Jules Winnfield

captcha = ercon

anonymous anonymous said...

Confused, It's only mysterion. He is masking or trying to. Rather pitifully IMHO. It is what it is.

Anonymous said...

Yeah Nietzsche's way beyond ya Goon Ron, as is any authentic eastern thinking, mormon queer troll with a thousand names. Stick to the bed-pan technique from Casa Grande

Anonymous said...

I don't think Mysterion's got it in him. Just too creative & bizarre. He likes to explain and make sense. this makes none.

Anonymous said...

It makes perfect sense, joto

you just a mormon POS like yr boyfriends Tommy Senrab and McMuerto, so incapable of reason

Brad Warner said...

I think a great marketing scheme would be for someone to offer both versions for maybe $20.. Then you could read from an e-reader while your books stay unsullied

What an interesting idea! Lots of bands offer an LP with a code inside for a free download. This would be harder with a book because in the case of the LP, the card is sealed inside so you can't see it till you buy the record. In the case of a book the code would be printed inside & someone could just copy it down & take it home & get the download.

If you can find a work-around for that you might have something...

Anonymous said...

Scientologist
Mormon
Gay
Ignorant
Uneducated
Unlearned

These seem to be the themes.

Sannyasin Willie said...

The fume stumbles.
A composite hesitates!
The seed contours a kettle.

Her galaxy resides before the peanut.
The ballet cracks beneath the racist.
A traveled slogan flips beside the needless bull.

http://watchout4snakes.com/CreativityTools/RandomSentence/RandomSentence.aspx

Anonymous said...

The knowledge develops the author.

"Sadhana" said...

Sadhana is spiritual movement consciously systematized. Sadhana is the purpose for which we have come to this place.

Sadhana is a lifelong process. Every day, every hour, every minute, is an onward march. Obstacles are innumerable in this great voyage. But, so long as you hold God as thy guide, there is nothing to worry about. You are sure to reach the other shore.

Good intentions alone will not do. They must be backed up by good actions. You must enter the spiritual path with the best intention of attaining Atma-Jnana (Self-knowledge), but unless you are vigilant and diligent, unless you do intense and rigorous Sadhana, unless you guard yourself against lust, anger and egoism and selfishness, the good intentions alone will not enable you to achieve success.

Moral purity and spiritual aspiration are the first steps in the seeker's path. Without a strong conviction in moral values, there can surely be no spiritual life, or even a good life.

Mark Foote said...

Brad, Sitepoint offers their ebooks and paperbacks bundled or separately, for sale. Meaning, you can buy both at one price, if you want to. Here's their homepage:

Sitepoint

You can scroll down to see their books and the pricing. I'm sure other publishers must be able to offer this capability.

Anonymous Bob said...

Hi Mark.. A few publishers are offering bundles on select books but so far the big online stores B&N and Amazon are not. Very few bookstores survived in my town after Borders came through. Then Borders went belly up and what we have left is online book buying.

Brad.. I like the idea of placing a code inside the book. Maybe all books will need to be shrink-wrapped going forward. If a person likes to read a bit before deciding to purchase it will be done online.

Publishers could also provide bookstores with a store copy without the code for customers to look through before buying.

The bottom line as always is can publishers/stores/writers make more money making these changes?

Mysterion said...
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<[xxiieee9119eeeiixx]> said...

Sadhana realizes--unlike the Bogussatttvas here (and queer mormon trolls,aka Byro) that the authentic ...dhamma requires something like virtue.

Then anyone who understood Hesse's books might have, but ...that's asking a great deal from the bogus. Next up, devanagari
for white trash

Anonymous said...

""There is nothing wrong with Mormons.""

what a f-ing pussay. First off, read like Brigham Dung's endless rants against...blacks, natives, jews, other religions--even the evangelicals (and they're no better--). Or Smith's bizarre bogus visions

And here some of us thought you were like a hipster, mysti-man---when yr just a muffin

Anonymous said...

i love those movies where the bad guy shoots everyone in the room then shoots himself in the leg so the authorities won't think he's the killer!

The Walrus said...

Yellow matter custard, green slop pie,
All mixed together with a dead dog's eye,
Slap it on a butty, ten foot thick,
Then wash it all down with a cup of cold sick

Mitt said...

Mysterion you have relatives who are Mormon, correct?

Anonymous said...

Mumble away, Byro the failed male nurse (and hater of ALL eastern religions).

yr game about over, hijo de puta


mistake hangin with 'skin and/or LDS conservatives, mysti. big one

Shaman Willie said...
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Shaman Willie said...

The bitter food smells like Nirvana near the initiative. Nirvana publishes Buddha throughout a weekday moon. A mythology reigns before the fortune! Buddha locates Nirvana next to his lake. Nirvana lathers the bit stake next to the dishonest razor.

http://watchout4snakes.com/CreativityTools/RandomParagraph/RandomParagraph.aspx

Mysterion said...

Anonymous Mitt said...
"Mysterion you have relatives who are Mormon, correct?"

My mother's youngest sister married a Mormon. So an uncle-in-law is a Mormon (except he died). I don't think any of their three kids are Mormon. The daughter went with the Greek Orthodox, the oldest son is agnostic, and the youngest is a deist - of sorts.

I don't object to Chrystal Gazing any more than I object to homeopathy or chiropractic. Whatever cracks your back or heats your cocoa!

The Profit Joe Smith said people of color carried "the mark of Cain." All I ask about this is: "What would Zemu say?"

Mysterion said...

Joya-no-kane” Bell tolling on New Year’s Eve: Bell-striking ceremonies are carried out from the night of December 31st to the morning of New Year’s Day in order to cleanse people of the 108 evil passions*.

*I still have a few to discover.

108 ? -- The History and Meaning of Prayer Beads

Emmanuel said...

Emmanuel

Anonymous said...

if you are reading this, close this browser window now please.

Anonymous said...

mysterion is totally bat-shit and has no idea.

Mysterion said...
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anonymous anonymous said...

[slow wave] Like duh.. I've only been screaming that from the rooftops. Dude is a bent penny.

Barry Graham said...

When we first come to Zen practice, we hope it will solve our problems, make them better, make us better. It often seems to make our problems worse - but only because we become more aware of them.

If you are not gentle before practice, then practice won't make you gentle - but you will become aware of your lack of gentleness (at first painfully aware), and will know how to take care of it. If you have an anxious or angry personality, practice won't make you tranquil or calm; you will see your anxiety or anger more clearly, and, when you see it, you will know what it is and what to do (often, nothing). Obsessive thoughts don't diminish through practice; they are just seen for what they are. Enlightenment is seeing clearly what is going on. Delusions don't disappear, and may not even diminish, but, seen as delusions, they lose their power over us.

Kye Sangha said...

Almost every night I work in my studio and watch OWS do it's thing. Which is to say that almost every night I get to watch peaceful protestors get beat up by the people who are paid to protect them. If you watch enough you get a sense of the character of the different groups, & their counter-parts, those men in blue. And then you get to watch as America gets lied to about what's happening under its nose.
The whole thing is very frightening. But it's the tip of a large iceberg that out country is crashing into. If the message is muddled its because there are so many things gone wrong. But one message we should listen to: we are living in a police state, and if we want to keep what's left of our tattered freedoms we'd better start acting up, and fast.

On Christmas I went to the local Occupy encampment for the first time to take treats and supplies. Lots of them were home for the holidays, but it was good to do it. I'll go back again when things are more hopping, I hope you do, too.

proulx michel said...

"What would Zemu say?"

"Messieurs, je suis ému!"
(Someone in the crowd:)
"Vive Zému!"

01010101 said...

we are living in a police state

true dat--and the baton, mace and tasar specialists are bipartisan, multicultural, male and female. Lots of mormons. Probably even some zen jooodhists.

Anonymous said...

Police are just like any other employee of the state. They are generously benefited and overly lazy. What they care about is protecting their pay check and getting their early retirement, not protecting you or me. Term limits are a good idea for politicians as they are for cops. It's service not career.

Mysterion said...

Police state...

I don't know which state (pun) you are living in but police are people too. They have jobs to do - report accidents, transport hookers, take crime reports, arrest suspects, write parking and traffic citations.

Now, under the Reagan-Bush-Bush Military/Industrial Complex, police departments became increasingly militarized because those war-machine manufacturers needed customers for their NEW hardware and federal grants gave old stuff to local 'law enforcement agencies.'

So, properly speaking, it's a military/industrial complex we live in and the police state of which you speak is a mere side effect.

p.s. most police CAN retire at 55. The big, fat, old ones don't because they have no life outside of uniform. They are as institutionalized as lifers in jails.

Happy days said...

Well, there's certainly a cleavage here between opinions. But it's handy to be kept abreast of current Zen thoughts. Brad may have his knockers, but I'm sure we all enjoy being embosomed in this happy community, and feeling able to post what we think without feeling too much of a tit.

Zenleo said...

Hey Mr. Mumbles and A-Bob I to received a Kindle for X-mas... now to only be able to read this blog on it, I like the e-ink thing, no back light. I agree the books should be much cheaper (and most are) Kindle version. I found over 8000 pages of free books via Amazons Kindle store.
It's a interesting device but other a replacement for reading the back-lit computer blogs I'm not sure I'm sold on it. Waiting for the Hardcore Zen Kindle version and other such sites I read.
Happy New Year

Mysterion said...
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Adi said...

Happy New Year dude...my interest in Zen stemmed from this exact Alan Watts video! I stumbled onto your blog a few months ago, I think it's awesome. Cheers! Poop squares.

Anonymous said...

Happy Mayan Apocalypse!

May you never be "Indefinitely Detained",

May you never run out of food, fuel, or ammo,

and

May you find yourself serendipitously
Touched By His Noodly Appendage!


Bottoms Up!

Hardy Har har said...

most cop unions are run by democrats and most cops are demos. Not all, of course and BushCo did help with the police state. Then so did the likes of DiDi Feinstein, and the Clintons. Some of the cops beating the protesters in SF/Oak. probably do some insta-zazen, Mysti-muffin. bay area execs also zen types

Lubosh Kavalek said...

Eeeeee happy new widdly widdly and all that!!!!!

*makes firework noises with belly button*

Anonymous said...

Once again, more contractors
for Brad's Dad.

But don't forget to keep the
story straight.

Mysterion said...
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john e mumbles said...
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Anonymous said...

mysterion's in his manic troll mode.

Don't worry Brad, it never lasts very long.

Mysterion said...
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PhilBob-SquareHead said...

If Anon got "it", he-she-it'd never post again.

Anonymous said...

"If Anon got "it", he-she-it'd never post again."

absurd small talk.

BVR said...

I was reading some on a World War 1 discussion forum. It was interesting how polite the comments were there. The comments here are not so nice. What is it that makes people interested in war act so courteous in their forums, and people interested in just sitting so combative in theirs?

Anonymous said...

Because Zen people think they have outgrown good manners.

Mysterion said...

Zen people "cut to the chase."

They often directly say [a PDF] (or write) what is on their mind.

An example of this would be saying: "Your politics make me puke." just before spraying vomit on a republican'ts Hart Schaffner & Marx archetypical black suit.

Anonymous said...

like this?

Phred Felps said...

Anonymity+audience= douchbaggery

Anonymous said...

I have lurked on these "zen" blogs and have come to a unshakable conclusion:

True zen, true dharma is a face to face, community affair.

-ANY- asshole can compose something "wise", pithy and compassionate.
-ANY- asshole can mull their words over, and craft the "perfect post" given enough time.
-ANY- asshole can make themselves sound like they have some great insight; 99.999% of these replies have this to some degree.

Zen blogs - this one included - for me is a big waste of time and bandwidth, having little if any to do with dharma... because the true and only test is how one has brought it to life *IN* their life.
And brother - this here aint life.

Anonymous said...

just be aware
see it and know it for what it is
same as your reaction to it

i think what's going on here is some kind of unconscious human animal group dynamic.

It terms of mental phenomena, my internal experience and what i perceive externally, it feels analogous to a hall of mirrors. However, the mirrors are not at right angles to each other. They are shattered, angular, and you can only see a mirror reflected in another mirror.

anonymous asshole said...

Does an asshole have the Buddha nature?

Anonymous said...

yes, and no.

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I don't know what I love more, FEMEN or Alan. Kind of both.

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