Friday, February 25, 2011

How To Make a Zen Monster

Tonight February 26, 2011 (Sat) 7 PM I'm speaking at Missouri Zen Center, 220 Spring Ave., Webster Groves, MO 63119

I have a new piece up on the SuicideGirls safe-for-work blog. this is the link. Or just cut & paste:

It starts off the same as the Elephant Journal article from a little while back, but then veers off into different territory after about the second paragraph. I didn't want to presume the readers at Suicide Girls knew anything about Dennis Roshi.

You'll note that I provided a link to Dennis' upcoming Big Mind® retreat in Maui with Jack "Chicken Soup for the Soul" Canfield. It's a bargain at $15,000. Only 20 lucky people will be selected to join, it says.

Like I said before, I'm as sick of writing about Dennis Roshi as everyone is sick of reading about him. But I submit to you that this new piece on SuicideGirls is not about Dennis Roshi at all. It's about an all-too-common phenomenon of which he is just the latest example. It didn't start with him and it won't end with him. He's not even the only guy out there right now doing this.

It's hard for me to feel too much grief for people who can blow $15,000 on a rip-off like this. But it does worry me that there are people in this world who can afford to do that. It means something very bad is going on with our economic system.

Think about it. It's not just that there are a few stupid rich people who can spend $15,000 to hang out with fake "spiritual masters." Only 20 of the applicants will be selected for the honor. That means there are a lot of stupid rich people out there. And Dennis Roshi isn't even like an A-List fake spiritual master. He's probably a B or C list guy. And not only that, he's a B or C list guy who is currently going through a major sex scandal. Yet he can still pull in these kinds of numbers.

That means there are not just a lot people out there who can afford to blow $15,000 on a rip-off fake spiritual master with a ridiculously transparent scam. There are a whole fuck of a lot of these people.

Dig these lines pulled straight from their own pitch, "When you’re immersed in a relaxed setting surrounded by confident 'players' who are comfortable with their immense success, there’s no doubt you’ll emerge with the same abundant mindset! This program is designed to give you private time with proven professionals—who will work on your personal goals and address your unique needs." It also says, "They (Dennis Roshi and his slimy cronies) are all successful, and comfortable with their achievements. They know how to get things done. To them, most dreams are easy to accomplish. In fact, it’s what they do every day. And it’s one reason why working with mentors at their level will catapult you further—faster—than virtually any other approach."

There are also vague lines about Genpo's Big Mind® House in Maui. I assume this is one of the three the submissive people he has surrounded himself with bought him. According to the pitch $15,000 is about 1/5th what you'd (who'd?) expect to pay for the privilege of hanging out with people of Dennis Roshi's caliber. Don't even get me started on what caliber of person I think that scumbag is. This, then, implies further that there is a whole tier -- perhaps several tiers -- of even more expensive rip-offs than this one.

If there are this many people with this kind of money to blow on something as immensely frivolous and decadent as this, why, then, is there any poverty at all in the world?

This kind of thing makes me angry. It used to make me red faced, smoke-coming-out-of-my-ears angry. Now it just makes me plain old angry. If this makes me angry, as a person who has spent decades working on the problem of anger, think how it makes people who have not spent any time at all working on their anger issues feel.

This is a dangerous situation. This is a fucking powder keg just waiting to go off.

Thanks Dennis Roshi. Thanks a whole lot.


Don't forget that the following events are coming up and you are required to attend. If not, your grade point average could be affected!

THIS WEEKEND: February 26, 2011 (Sat) 7 PM I'm at Missouri Zen Center, 220 Spring Ave., Webster Groves, MO 63119

On March 5, 2011 (Sat) I'll be in Cocoa, FL, Zazenkai from 9 AM, Talk at 2 PM Brevard Zen Center 1261 Range Road Cocoa, FL

From March 16-20 I'll be in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan in the Great White North! I'll post a schedule of events soon. There are several planned.

Oh! And don't miss the article below this one about Shoplifting From American Apparel.

(I’m still taking a break from reading the comments section of this blog. If you have something you feel you must say to me in response to this, write me an email at If you just post something in the comments section, I will not see it.)


Anonymous said...

A Zen monster.. hmmm

no comment.

- #2 - said...

Haven’t yet read the previous one. Where are you running, man?

Seagal Rinpoche said...

Renunciation is not getting rid of the things of this world, but accepting that they pass away.

Bizarro Seagal said...

I'm sorry, man, but I've got magic. I've got poetry in my fingertips. Most of the time -- and this includes naps -- I'm an F-18, bro. And I will destroy you in the air. I will deploy my ordinance

anon #108 said...

That's nuts, that - that Genpo thing. I've gone right off 'im :(

...Much better :)

Anonymous said...

Gosh, this comment section is always so awesomely chock-full of fascinating comments and the Flock of Seagals, how can Brad can stay away?

Harry said...

"What I am struggling to articulate is that what you present as 'express, momentary facts' cannot be divorced from the drama unfolding.

(from previous comments section)

Hi Anon,

That line from Genjo-koan is translated in various ways and the way it's rendered is very, very important I think. 'Leaping clear of' can suggest some sort of 'remote transcendence from' while 'leaping from/ leaping out from' can suggest immanence and dynamic thus-ness. It's a very important difference. Dosho Port talks about this important point and favours the latter type of translation. I think the latter is definitely more in line with the gist of Dogen's zen, and certainly with the 'fundamental point' of Genjo-koan. Besides, it makes sense (to me at least).

It could certainly be said that we are just creating another drama, another set of facts, in non-thinking zazen; we're never in any way removed from doing our actions and the real consequences of 'em; but there's a 'pivotal matter' that is quite an effectively clear difference between sitting and habitually and unconsciously accepting our thoughts/thinker as some sort of enduring entity/reality and sitting allowing our thoughts and feelings and the thinker to drop away. In the latter case the drama of thinking/ thinker serves a distinctly different function and effects another plot entirely that is not in direct reference to the lead actor's battered and hackneyed old script.

"Whether we refer to the situation in terms of abundance or lack, being or non-being, etc... isn't the allowing to unfold also not 'cut off' from the processes of unfolding?"

When it's actually springtime, where is winter existing? Does winter ever exist outside of the real stuff of winter?

A bud never really exists now as a potential flower. It's really a bud in it's own time, it's own 'dharma position'.

Aiming to become a buddha in doing sitting/non-thinking is already to become a buddha as a bud or a flower, as winter or spring (to become a becoming-buddha) through a series of not-buddha moments in the same way as a flower relies on a series of not-flower moments as a bud and a flower or the winter relies on a series of not-winter moments/objects (the winter is nothing other than the real time-stuff of winter, or, we might say, the real conduct of winter... snow, ice, frost, cold etc etc is winter-time).

Zazen isn't some sort of ongoing choice or a realisation of expectation. Zazen is freedom from the very attractive and intoxicating slavery of choice or 'free will' and so realising a 'futher ascendant' not-buddha via sitting 'non-buddha' can be a real process that only ever unfolds in the real moment which is never fixed in a sequence. We just imply a sequence with our thinking re past and future in the present real-time. Needless to say that the conduct of actualising a buddha isn't inhibited by any fixed state or set process in the same way that the flower and winter is never hindered by a set flower or winter. They do 'hinder' themselves in themselves as distinct, unique existences-instances, but it isn't as a fixed state.



Anonymous said...

did i mention that i am going?

maha said...

Is anyone else finding that when you use the links to the Suicide Girls page you are redirected to some other site entirely?

Mysterion said...
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Landed said...

To Harry

Thanks for the response.

anon #108 said...

Hi Harry and co-correspondent,

Harry - do you know the Bob Myers translation of Genjo-Koan, Truth Unfolding" (approvingly cited by Mike Dosho Port)? You probably do. I know from nothing about translating Dogen, but BM's translation, particularly when read in conjunction with his notes, I found very interesting.

Anonymous said...

good article SG
Glad you are having all kinds of fun acting, turning your hand at scriptwriting and all!

Have to say though, if in Zen 'we are all tops,' then aren't we 'all bottoms' too?

I mean top and bottom become irrelevant, no?

I don't know much about the Kwan Um (Korean Buddhist School), but it appears they function

As far as the variously priced expensive BigMind(r) gatherings go--it's a social networking scene (scam)
That is: people with money like to meet other people with money.
Money likes to stay together.
If I can pony up that kind of moolah I can meet others who are flush with the cash. My meeting up with can lead to other things...certainly an addition to 'contacts' in my cell phone.
And hey, the encounter was all in the spirit of seeking spirituality! The place where money gets washed cleanest!

Someone out there can maybe explain this?

Anonymous said...

The 'somebody out there can maybe explain this?'

was meant to come after the democratic method used in running Kwan Um School zendos and practice groups....


Luke Devlin said...
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Luke Devlin said...

Just realised how much Dennis Roshi looks like Marshall Applewhite, the Heaven's Gate suicide cult leader... compare with ...
separated at birth?

anon #108 said...

And here's a funny thing - Gregory Wonderwheel's (@ZFI) version of the opening of Genjo-Koan:

"At the time the Buddha Dharma of all things (dharmas) is attained, namely, there is delusion and enlightenment; there is cultivating practice; there is birth; there is death; there are all the Buddhas; and there are the multitude of beings. The time that the natural position of oneself is together with the 10,000 things is without bewilderment; is without satori; is without all the Buddhas; is without the multitude of beings; is without birth; and there is no extinction. From the beginning the Way of the Buddha is located in the hot water where we try to jump out from abundance and scarcity, so there is birth and extinction; there is delusion and enlightenment: there are beings and Buddhas.
Nevertheless, it is like this of everyone whether or not they aim to question: flowers, on the one hand, are lovingly regretted to be in the dirt, and grass, on the other hand, is rejected and disliked bearing ripened seeds."
(my bold)

...I have been warned by a medieval Sino-Japanese scholar - who, it seems likely, may know what he's talking about - that Gregory's amateur efforts are not to be relied upon. Nevertheless, "Merit in all things" (who said that ?).

Moon Face Buddha said...

Genpo bad cos he sells bullshit for $15k

Brad good because he sells bullshit for $10


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Zombie Seagal said...

uruyiognocfgsod BRAINSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey Brad, your writing has given me a lot to think about and do. I relate to how you've dealt with your experiences, at least the ones you've written about in your books. Therefore, I cannot help but feel like you might have some amount of regret for the energy you're spending on this jack ass.

This guy is no doubt a complete asshole fuckwad, but how much money he makes from people doesn't seem to affect those of us who choose not to put energy into it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, fuck that guy. It sucks to see him getting to you this much, but I guess that speaks to my desire to pass some amount of my personal responsibility to you.

Love ya dude, thanks for all the good books, and insights that a normal, fucked up, jerk wad like myself can relate to.

Sorry about the anon thing. I don't have a Google account. My name is Rob, I live in Halifax, NS

anon #108 said...

Hey Moon Face!

You're trying to tell us something ain't cha ;) Spit it out.

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Anonymous said...

Zen "monsters" always go rotten from the head down, this explains much of what we are observing.

Seagal's Belly said...

"It's being directed and written by a genius named David Ward... In fact, a lot of people think the movie's called Wild Thing, as they should. Whatever … If they want me in it, it's a smash. If they don't, it's a turd that opens on a tugboat."

Anonymous said...

everybody gets the audience she / he deserves. Stop crying and come down to earth, zen mommy will dry your tears. Now go and play your own life again, reaction is a bad form of action, and will push you in ways you dont want to walk.

Genpo & Brad, i shoe you !

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Anonymous said...

greedy bastards like that get to:

go to hell. go directly to hell. do not pass enlightenment. do not collect good karma.

the principal sin in buddhism is


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Anonymous said...

This "roshi" is just a gimp.

Anonymous said...

Forget Gimpo roshi, check out Jumpo roshi... he has way cooler robes and has f*cked way more women (i think).

Makes me laugh how f*cking stupid american zen students are training under these whackos.

Look bozos, if your teacher is scamming money off you and f*cking your wife, the general rule is stay away. its really not difficult to figure out.


seagal's coiffeur said...


Genpo Merzel is a Zen master, retired buddhist priest and founder and creator...

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

"topping from the bottom"?

Now I'm really confused. I
must be a total loser; I
don't understand what all
these Vatican assassins
are talking about. My
Big Mind just can't
process it!

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

uh... nevermind.

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

From SG article: "Tsugen Roshi, the 84-year-old Japanese teacher from whom I received transmission…", whereas Brad's Blogger profile states "I received Dharma Transmission from Gudo Nishijima Roshi". Which is it, or can you receive transmission from more than one teacher?

Anonymous said...

Ignore previous comment. Once I bothered to read the article properly I saw my mistake.

anon #108 said...

From a recent visit to another internet Zen forum I have been reminded of the two rejoinders essential for successful Dharma combat:

1) 'Who is this "I"?'


2) 'Have a cup of tea.'

Don't say I never help you guys out.

Bizarro Seagal said...

an abortion can cost a ballin' nigga up to 50gs maybe a 100. Gold diggin' biithes be getting pregnant on purpose. STRAPUP my niggas!

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Anonymous said...

Cup is this tea of who?

Papa Squat said...

Brad, like Dennis, want success, fame, fulfillment of the American Dream.

Brad would give his left genpo to become a pop culture monster with a best seller, a hit pop song, and now, an academy award.

He is using skillful means (ie; the only means he was born with, hisself) to further this random program of pop star building assault.

Dennis Merzel knows something Brad is unwilling to admit about the whole program: its about skillful means, alright, using any means necessary, including infamy.

Ikkyu Too said...

Tea is Tea.

The way to enlightenment by tea - literally "tea way" is chado.

wiki chado

JapanZone Chado

it's counter intuitive, but here is a tea ceremony competition. She was moving too quickly...

R said...

Thanks for the link Mysty. (The last one, - I didn't check the other three.) I was thinking of learning this stuff myself. Though I don't really suppose it is that easy to find anyone teaching it here in Israel.

Anonymous said...

"Elen Wood Speed Satori"

Evelyn Wood?

Anonymous said...

The BigMind Maui retreat seems have vanished. There is a longish letter from Genpo about all the pain he's caused. Are we deluding ourselves that years of zazen will make us a bit saner? What was Genpo thinking? Bah!

Anonymous said...

The $15K maui retreat seems to have vanished from the link. There is a letter from Genpo about all the pain he's caused. Am I deluding myself to expect a saner response after 40 years of zazen. You can be a dumbshit with a GED. How in the world did he think it all was going to turn out? The lady in question appears to be a real catch - will he fuck that up too?

Dennis the Menace said...

What was he thinking?.......

There's a bright golden haze on the meadow
There's a bright golden haze on the meadow
The corn is as high as an elephant's eye
And it looks like it's climbing right up to the sky

Oh what a beautiful morning
Oh what a beautiful day
I've got a beautiful feeling
Everything's going my way

All the cattle are standing like statues
All the cattle are standing like statues
They don't turn their heads as they see me ride by
But a little brown mav'rick is winking her eye

Oh what a beautiful morning
Oh what a beautiful day
I've got a beautiful feeling
Everything's going my way

All the sounds of the earth are like music
All the sounds of the earth are like music
The breeze is so busy it don't miss a tree
And an ol' weeping willow is laughing at me

Oh what a beautiful morning
Oh what a beautiful day
I've got a beautiful feeling
Everything's going my way

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

Blogger Shozan said...
"1) Am I deluding myself to expect a saner response after 40 years of zazen?

2) How in the world did he think it all was going to turn out?

3) The lady in question appears to be a real catch - will he fuck that up too?"

Wait, and see.

Mysterion said...
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Zombie Seagal said...

Don't worry, we zombies are looking for brains, you're safe..

mysterion's vessel said...

Thanks Zombie,

I will sleep well tonight on that informative news.

Anonymous said...


If you qualify and will agree to diligently dedicate yourself to this process, you will be welcome you to this Maui retreat for four days this November 17th to 21st. And the cost for this private-client immersion experience? Just $15,000…about 1/5th what you would expect to pay any of these mentors for their private consulting time were they to work with you outside this unique setting and unprecedented event.

Only the most committed—those who know a four-day experience with these four extraordinary mentors will deliver the life they want—can fully appreciate this unique and priceless opportunity.

If you are one of these committed people, you too could be living the rest of your life very differently from your first 30, 40 or 50 years. You could …

You could—but only when you take action to become one of the 20 privileged individuals to join Genpo Roshi and his colleagues in Maui this November. To secure your place quickly, get travel details and receive your Application, please email your contact information to KC Kyozen Sato Sensei at Or, if you would like to speak to her directly, you can call her at 801-647-9595. While your days will be intense and filled with excitement and remarkable change, this transformational experience should be restful and restorative. Each night, you’ll have time and tranquility to reflect on the day’s work—as you contemplate and prepare for the day ahead.

At the Big Mind House with Genpo Roshi, which is just minutes from the Auberys’ and the Canfields’, Roshi has free bedrooms for the first 3 individuals or couples that register We also know of excellent inexpensive accommodations within easy walking distance of the Canfields’ and Auberys’ house.

You might also consider staying at the nearby Ritz-Carlton Kapalua, offering luxury accommodations just a short distance from the retreat. This legendary hotel and resort is situated on the famed Kapalua coast. Five breathtaking bays and three white sand beaches create the area's renowned shoreline, while a few meters inland, lush rainforests, a protected marine life conservation district, an ancient Hawaiian burial ground, and golf courses that double as wildlife sanctuaries await exploration.

Your journey begins just an e-mail away. To receive your Application and put yourself on the interest list for this unique opportunity, email your contact information to KC Kyozen Sato Sensei at Or, if you would like to speak to her directly, you can call her at 801-647-9595.

Anonymous said...

I believe KC Kyozen Sato is the new love interest. Is the retreat still happening? I don't care if Genpo channels Abraham as long as he doesn't call it Zen. Maybe I should drop over from the Big Island?

Anonymous said...

I believe KC Kyozen Sato is the new love interest. Is the retreat still happening? I don't care if Genpo channels Abraham as long as he doesn't call it Zen. Maybe I should drop over from the Big Island?

echo said...

Is there an echo in here?

echo said...

Is there an echo in here?

Big Nothing said...

Huh. Big Mind, Big Island. Big talk.

Ikkyu 2.5 said...

is <a href=">nothing</a> sacred?

Ran K. said...

- “Anonymous R” again.

(M @ 6:00 pm)

Oh, well.

- It definitely does not seem to be only about [complete or incomplete] “attention to the form, flow, and detail”. In fact for me it wouldn’t be much about that at all, it seems.

It is about the spirit as well, that’s to a great deal where the practice is going to get you.

- What is meant by “To transcend studying Buddhism is called circumstances”? (- SS, B. 2, no. 86; Nishijima’s Translation)
- Do you know, - Mysty?
- It is not yet about the state of a true master, - that would be what is referred to in the next sentence [- there] as “true passing”.

(- Though then you are not that much necessarily concerned about your “"Practice, practice, practice!" ”.

The book seems nice, but it seems it would be foolish of me to try and practice that way.

- You hardly stand at a place where you could direct and advise people. That’s a point you really don’t seem to comprehend.

But I can see why. - And so would many others.

+ said...

- As for 6:30: - [pm as well]

I really disliked the video when I saw it.
(Who didn’t?)

- The actor clearly does not understand the figure he’s supposed to play.

You can see the Japanese not understanding their own culture.

Mysterion seems to be [even] worth than I thought.

(- “I cannot recommend this VIDEO enough”! [- !!])

+ As for taking tea “too seriously”: - It sure is better than the stuff you seem to waste your life with. (- and offer in abundance to all interested and uninterested parties) said...

There is not retreat info and no letter. Any other links, anyone?

Anonymous said...

If you click Genpo Merzel, then "read" on the next page you'll get this letter. I feel sorry for the guy because I can't imagine he intended this outcome.

My only dharma is my karma
on FEBRUARY 26, 2011
On January 12, 2011, I said goodbye to Stephanie and my dog and left Salt Lake City for Paris not knowing I would never set foot in my home upon return and that I would never again see the face of my wife. The Zendo I had dreamed about for decades and finally created in 1993, I can no longer return to either. The greatest pain however, in all of this, is the tremendous suffering that I have caused Stephanie, my children, my family, and my students. The pain that one causes oneself pales in comparison to knowing that I am responsible for the deep shattering of dreams that I inflicted on my family and others. I know that the damage that I have done is irreversible.

I am taking this time to focus on myself and reflect on the mess that I have created. The loss of everything that I have put my life energy and heart into for the past forty years has been like witnessing my own death. I am now atoning for the pain I have caused Stephanie, my family and everyone. When I gave up being a Soto Zen Buddhist priest on February 6, 2011, it was by some odd coincidence forty years ago to the day that I had my first awakening in the Mojave Desert and my Zen practice began. Now writing this letter I realize today is Maezumi Roshi’s birthday, and I am reflecting on our twenty three years together. It was on Saturday, March 18, 1972 that I first met Maezumi Roshi, and after three days I was ready to leave his retreat and never look at Buddhism again. His words that day caused me to change my mind, because in my entire life no one had ever spoken to me as he did. I can even now feel how my heart was touched when he said, looking me straight in the eye, “I don’t want you to go.” He said this three times, and the decision I made in that moment was to stay with him and to devote my life to the Buddha Dharma.

Now, forty years later, I feel I have come full circle as I leave behind being a Zen priest, and finally feel that I am living the life of a humble Zen monk by taking off my priestly robes and brocade rakusu, and just being an ordinary man of no rank. The great Zen Master Dogen Zenji said, “to study the Buddha Way is to Study the Self,“ and this is where I am starting once again. I hope that you can benefit from my tragic mistakes. For me, the great teaching from this has been that my karma is my dharma and that I have no other dharma besides my own karma to share and teach. I am taking a hard and painful look at where I have missed the mark and how I can possibly make amends for all the pain and suffering that I have caused. I am offering the rest of my life to teaching those students who wish to continue studying with me. As bad as I feel, the remorse that I am experiencing, has only opened my heart more and allowed me to feel my own vulnerability and rawness in a much deeper and more profound way. Instead of trying to save the whole world, I will now focus on individuals and small groups. The greatest teaching experience to the present moment for me is experiencing the pain, suffering and humiliation that I have caused Stephanie and my loved ones. I will move forward with my life, humbly preserving and nurturing what I care and love, and will no longer squander my life.

D. Genpo Merzel
February 24th, 2

anon #108 said...

And if you click on the link you gave as your name -

- you should get a google "broken link" warning. Click on "Access a cached copy..." and you should be taken to the text of the retreat announcement, without pictures. I'm a PC dummie, but it worked for me.

Seagal Rinpoche said...

I have the smallest ego of anyone here.

Big Wallet® said...

Removed from HERE but cashed (Nov 17) HERE

Anonymous said...

Jack Canfield has yet to change his website.

as a 'zen retreat' it might be a tax write-off.

Now that Dennis isn't a Buddha guy, that puts the IRS into sniffing mode...

I always worry about people who pay more in income tax than the average worker takes home in a month...

(WAIT! I pay $5400 a year OVER withholding - a render unto Caesar that which is Caesars kind of thing. Typically, non-Xtians do the Xtian kinds of things.)

Tea-baggers would never admit that their Jesus fellow said: "Pay your taxes."

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Anonymous said...

So Dennis has left Utah for France. What is he doing?

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Anonymous said...

speaking of 40 (see below)

for an introduction to "Big Mind" - Scientology parallels, see:

save the world

clear the world

did these two megalomaniacs ever actually have that capacity? i wonder...

who knows, there are bigger claims: "While still a student, Bengston encountered a seriously gifted hands-on healer." said...

Anonymous said...

Janet "Bray" [like a donkey] Atwood??

anonymous anonymous said...

Mysterion on Genpo..

'I think he needs to go sit Zazen by alone for a year. Perhaps in the Mojave Desert.'

Great advice.. But better yet, why don't YOU go sit Zazen alone in the Mojave Desert for a year? Then you won't worry so much about Genpo.

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anonymous anonymous said...

Watch yourself Mysterion.. That kind of comment got John Galliano fired.

Your calling other people foolish is funny.. $5000 isn't very much money you know.. I might pay Charlie Sheen $5000 for a week of his teachings.

Mysterion said...

Anonymous anonymous anonymous said...
"That kind of comment got John Galliano fired."

I said nothing of Hitler (that well-known Catholic Pervert).

The concept that you either love Jews (Hebrews?) or you love Hitler is dualism on steroids.

The Hebrews, like the Hobbits*, are based upon a regional contrived - even borrowed - folklore.

In short, I am neither for or against Hebrew or Hobbits.

*"The impact of these sagas from a sparsely inhabited rocky island in the middle of the Atlantic on world culture is wide-ranging. Wagners' operas are largely based on incidents from the Edda, via the Niebelungenlied. J.R.R. Tolkien also plundered the Eddas for atmosphere, plot material and the names of many characters in the Hobbit, and the Lord of the Rings. -- John Bruno Hare"

**To this day, no scholar (with any certainty) can state WHO the Hebrews were, WHERE they originated, or HOW they migrated. There is a general agreement that Akhenaten [a PDF] was the source of monotheism in the Levant.

Anonymous said...

More Genpo stuff here

Anonymous said...

randy (former student of the monster)

If it pleases the court to admit the evidence that here in S.L.C. there are alot of people who are very VERY angry and disgusted with 'him' and the whole affair...(exhibit a: he did this before/ this now ranks as his second divorce). "Big Mind" is seen as a four letter word and is 'that which must not be spoken of'. THe horrid man has exiled himself to Hawaii...(oh! how sad for him). The entire valley reeks of the putrid stench of 'Zen' and many have found themselves not in "Great Doubt" but in Great dissappointment" and Great Anger over the hypocrisy and "Sharlitonism" ( a word that really sticks in his craw since Tetsugen called him this to his was the last time that they spoke). Narsissism is as narsissism does I guess. If any of this info helps be satisfied that he is most definitely persona non gratta where did I put that pitch fork and torch??...hhhmmm they have got to be here somewhere...hugs all

Anonymous said...

Googling and oogling this in 2015, fascinating the rant by the multiple voices of mjusri. I suspect he/she's got it just about right.

Jan Willem van der Wetering precursed all of this in his 3rd book, which is definitely
NSFNBS (not suitable for newbies) (as it might turn them off permanently). Instead, better to wrap the soiled diaper up in a plastic bag, hold our noses and put it in the trash where it belongs. The kid is pure, he needs every chance to delight in this life, free of all this nonsense crap.

I sat with Genpo's group in Holland several betrayals ago, over a period of 3 years or so. At the end I smelled the stench of something putrid and got out. The sangha imploded a few weeks later, with an affair and the dumping of his wife and kid, who had coincidentally just received transmission.

Still sitting 30 years later. Brad has it right in his books. We are all full of it,
but at least we might as well admit that to ourselves, otherwise now just what is the point???

I shared something with Genpo in that I had also done Werner Erhard courses-in my case for 6 years starting in about 1980. I asked him about that and he said his favorite was the 6-Day course. The "Cadillac of enlightenment courses." Not bad, it was a great course. And he then said that if he figured out how to do it better, he would. Not good. A course is a course and there were so many good people, but the organization got everything upside down, a reflection of Werner's own borderline compassionate/abusive brilliance and own deep, unresolved problems. Not the Cadillac,
but the LSD, with some of the same problems.

So years later, along comes Big Mind which although there is no attribution, clearly is 50% inspired by Werner's style, material success and methods. In the DVD of the aptly named BM, the Big Guy is sitting up there just like a WE&A trainer, as all the participants give just the right answers. Just like est/forum....seductive insights,
get rich quick with Daddy's approval, be more brilliant, honest and enlightened than your neighbor.

There are no shortcuts, only SuperCuts. Shut up and sit down, on the existential toilet. And flush these jerks who should have been kicked out on their bums lifetimes ago. No one can do it for us, not even for $15,000. As Suzuki Roshi said, what you'll get for your money is a hole in your wallet of just that size- and a hole in your head or heart or butt which verges on infinity. But get over it, charlatans are the order of the day, most of them running for President nowadays or if not that, for Rasputin.