Monday, January 24, 2011

NEW SUICIDE GIRLS ARTICLE "I RESENT MY HIGH SCHOOL"


I have a new article up on the safe-for-work Suicide Girls blog. It's called I Resent My High School. Click on the words I Resent My High School and you will magically be flown there to see it. It's free. There are no naked pictures there to destroy your purity either!

It's another piece of confessional writing in the style of some of what's in my book Zen Wrapped in Karma Dipped in Chocolate. One hopes in writing such directly personal things that it resonates with other people's experiences and feelings. But when you write like this, you always risk coming off sounding like, "Oh woe is me! My life is so horrid! Look at how horrid it is! Look! Look!"

But I'm really influenced by records like John Lennon's Plastic Ono Band and Bob Dylan's Blood on the Tracks, where the songwriter bares his soul in a very personal way. Even though I was never a member of The Beatles or a Greenwich Village folksinger turned superstar, I still found those songs really compelling. And not in a voyeuristic way of being all like, "Oh John Lennon thinks religion sucks" or something. It was more that I could relate to the directness of it as an expression of what all people go through.

In case any of the people involved in my high school reunion are reading this, I'll say again, this is not what I "really think" of you. It's just a part of what goes through my head when faced with the prospect of seeing people from Wadsworth High School again.

To say it's what I "really think" would be to imply that of all the thoughts that pass through my skull about the reunion, the ones in the article are the ones I've chosen to believe and to call "mine." That's what we do a lot of the time. I do it too.

But what I'm trying to express here is that the Zen practice has allowed me the space to be able to step back a bit from that process. None of what goes through my head is what I "really think" in the sense that I am obliged to hold fast to it and establish it as my position on a given subject. And that, of course, is not just true for me. It's true for all of us.

But we've been taught very thoroughly that this is the way to respond to thoughts. We are taught to select certain of our thoughts and adhere to those. We thereby establish a specifically defined and rigid personality. That's where most of our problems stem from. But we don't know this process is even a source of our difficulties let alone the major source of them.

I am not perfect in my skill at allowing thoughts to pass without getting caught in making them "mine." I still do it a lot. But mostly when I do it now I can see myself doing it and know that it is not necessary. But the deeper the level of attachment you have to a certain type of reaction to a certain type of situation, the harder that can be.

***

In the comments section on that last piece someone said, "In your book Sit Down and Shut Up, you seem to emphasize the importance of finding a teacher (ch. 5, Zazen by Alone). Here you say don't worry about it. Do these two ideas contradict each other, or is there something I'm not seeing (in which case my 'not seeing' list is that much longer)? Thanks."

It's hard to express this just right. Yes, to study Buddhism you need a teacher. But you do not need a teacher to practice zazen. Someone in the comments section said something like, "Don't let lack of a teacher be an excuse not to practice." I agree.

Zazen can be a solitary practice or a group practice. For Buddhist study you need some kind of a mentor, even if that person doesn't have specific certification to teach Buddhism (though I think that's generally -- but not always -- better). Without a teacher there's too much danger of going off in some bizarre tangent.

It's a bit like what I was talking about earlier in this article. Some of your habitual reactions you are not aware of until someone says something to you about them.

I was not aware that I eat my cereal obnoxiously loudly until one of my roommates complained about it. This is because for most of my life I've eaten my cereal alone. When I eat breakfast with others it's never cereal, and even when I was married I almost always woke up earlier than my wife and I still ate it by myself.

In Buddhist study there are some things you simply cannot judge by yourself because, as in my cereal-eating, you have no criteria. My cereal-eating doesn't sound any quieter to me now that I make sure to close my mouth when I chew than it did before. It might even be a little louder to me. But my roommates don't complain when I chew it with my mouth closed.

It's sort of like that.

105 comments:

Hare said...

Ciao!

Seagal Rinpoche said...

On a long journey of human life, faith is the best of companions. It is the best refreshment on the journey, and it is the greatest property.

Seagal's Toupe said...

Faith is the child of Hope and Luck

Mysterion said...

His Bradness sed:
"In my case, I still have all my old resentments."

LOL

Well, detach!

This is a lot of heavy baggage to carry for no reason (at this point in your life). Remember the Paul Reps story... ("I left her on the other side of the road, but you are still carrying her")

I went to my 35th high school reunion - with my older sister.

We were among the poorest families in town but discovered others never looked upon us in those terms. It was refreshing - in the way changes are refreshing.

Appearances - it gets back to perceptions and appearances. And changes.

I'ld suggest that you attend - and detach.

Seagal's hair is REAL!! said...

Thanks for the teaching, Master Seagal. I appreciate your work here at the comments section of Brad's blog.

Soulagent79 said...

Brad, nice article. Reminds me of something you already wrote in "Sit Down And Shut Up", (Chapter "The Eight Truths of Great Human Beings", p. 239) a few years ago. Not being part of the 'popular crowd' and hanging out with the 'right people', because it's the 'thing to do', but enjoying being alone is something I can relate to very much. I never considered myself a nerd though when I was in school, I rather thought of myself as an 'eccentric outsider', being into 60s music, art and lots of other stuff most of my classmates had no clue about.
Peer pressure can be VERY cruel though! You say they thought of you as a 'faggot' and they liked to beat up such kind of guys. They never beat up YOU though, did they? At least you never mentioned it.

"I am not above thinking that it would be fun to go to the reunion just to see those people and be all like, I’m a fabulous famous writer who travels around the world to speak to people, has done eight records and made a movie that was shown at film festivals. Oh, and some people are making a documentary about my incredible life and I’ve just gotten the lead role in a feature-length narrative film too..."

Yeah and now you've even got some crazy hopefully-soon-to-be-famous musician right across the pond, naming his songs after your books! ;-)

frodo joe said...

what does REAL® mean?

Little Steven said...

The sage seeks perfection; the ignoramus, wealth.

OsamaVanHalen said...
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merciless said...

Osama, My immediate reaction to reading your comment is that everyone's resentment is misplaced. Just abide dudes.

john e mumbles said...

Zoinks! Brad...That's YOU in that graduation photo! I thought it was a chick. I used to get that in high school, though, when I had really long hair. And back THEN, it was unusual indeed. Unless you WERE John Lennon...and of course I thought I was...

Capt. Pissgums said...

"Wadsworth?" Seriously?





captcha: thwiber. seriously.

Brad Warner said...

My resentment is clearly misplaced. I said so in the article.

This does not make it vanish. If only seeing that something is not logical would make it go away! We've been trying that tactic forever and it still doesn't work.

When you see someone else's problems it's easy to say,"Acknowledge and move on." When it comes to your own it's hard to know what to even acknowledge, let alone move on.

anon #108 said...

OVH and merciless - about acknowledging and/or abiding...

The only way I can acknowledge (for example) resentment is to resent. Having resented, I can move on and abide.

When, for example, I drop and break something valued I explete "Cunt!" (I used to use "Bastard!" but neither it nor "Fuck!" do it for me these days). I immediately feel a whole lot better and am able to move on. What doesn't work for me is, having dropped and broken the valued thing, to tell myself "Do not be angry. Do not curse. Let go. Detach." That approach just causes more frustration...and resentment, for me. Not that either of you suggested such an approach...exactly.

I'm suggesting you have to experience the feeling, and know it for what it is (acknowledge), even indulge/confirm it. That can be the way to 'move on'. Perhaps that's what Brad's doing when he writes of his less-than-Buddhist feelings about his High School days.

anon #108 said...

EDITS:

"less-than-Buddhist"
- sarcasm.

"Perhaps that's what Brad's doing when..."
- What Brad's doing is his own business. What I wrote about what I do might have a grain of truth in it.

Seagul's bush said...

CUNT.

(Couldn't resist)

anon #108 said...

And yes, OVH - I do believe zazen has had a lot to do with the way I deal with anger/upset/resentment/disappointment these days. When I'm resenting someone or something in zazen I give him/her/it a good old resenting...and it's gone/done. Trying to ignore it or wish it away just doesn't work. For me. I find.

anon #108 said...

...Sometimes.

Anonymous said...

Life is sad
Life is a bust
All ya can do is do what you must
You do what you must do and ya do it well
I'll do it for you honey baby
Can't you tell?

john e mumbles said...

OVHalen:

...Shankara now?

Or is it good ol' Adi Da?

Naw, Shankara.

Mysterion said...
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anon #108 said...

I do believe it is, Mysti :)

Rick said...

I'm still mad that my high school counselor didn't steer me towards being a brew master or a bikini waxer.

Anonymous said...

High school is not a whole lot different
than prison, except that at least in high
school, the rape isn't physical.

Anonymous said...

how not to rape people

Anonymous said...

So I have a question (after reading the SG post and this one)

what happens when a teacher (zen teacher now)
has lingering resentments and rage which meditation will not eradicate

there they all are: likes and dislikes alike

do these things ever make it hard for a zen teacher to work with some students?

how should a teacher approach this, if there is a student in particular due to personality or otherwise?

Thank you, and I'll take my answer off the air.


captcha: pales

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Anonymous said...

Gniz has gone over to the dark side.

dharmapiglet said...

Brad, for what it's worth, I felt a lot of similar stuff about seeing my high school peers again after 20 years. I had no idea how I would react. Actually, I was surprised to find it was very healing for me. I think it was because I saw how little these people affected me any more. This mythology I'd built up around them all was just that, mythology, and it kind of deflated & trickled away with a whimper when I saw them again face to face. I was left with a vague feeling of chumminess towards all of them, and a load lifted somehow. It is a very weird experience seeing those people after so long, but for me I felt like I unhooked from a lot of my ol' garbage. If you do go, I hope that you find the experience positive too. Good luck with the whole thing either way.

Mumon said...

It's interesting you cited those two works by Dylan and Lennon. Lennon's album was one of the most amazing innovations of music, let alone rock n' roll, to have ever been done, and Dylan, in this case, was walking in Lennon's steps when he wrote Blood on the Tracks as his marriage collapsed (or shortly thereafter).

Both artists were writing about the seismic tremors that one experiences as profound events in one's life take their toll on the psyche.

Plastic Ono Band was Lennon's bringing of Primal Scream Therapy into the studio, where he was encouraged to re-experience the traumatic events of his childhood.

In Zen practice we just sort of do that when we pick up the pen or tap on the keyboard or wash the dishes, or rather, we practice with everything. When we remember to do so.

Anonymous said...

If the coach would have put Uncle Rico in the game, they'd have won state.

Lone Ranger said...

Hey Brad I was wondering what your thoughts on MTV's "Skins" and all the controversy. Sexual misconduct?

Brad Warner said...

This is the second reference someone has made to me about Skins. I have not seen it nor do I know anything about the controversy. I guess I oughta look it up.

Brad Warner said...

Anon said:
So I have a question (after reading the SG post and this one)

what happens when a teacher (zen teacher now)
has lingering resentments and rage which meditation will not eradicate

there they all are: likes and dislikes alike

do these things ever make it hard for a zen teacher to work with some students?

how should a teacher approach this, if there is a student in particular due to personality or otherwise?


My answer:
You ask this as if there are Zen teachers out there who do not have lingering resentments and rage which meditation will not eradicate.

There are no Zen teachers like that. Meditation does not eradicate this stuff.

Asking if these make it hard to work with some students supposes that there is a choice. Lots of things make it hard to work with lots of students. This is why I don't have any students!

Bizarro Seagal said...

Lots of things make it hard to work with lots of students. This is why I don't have any students!

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jason said...

Yep my high school was very much like a prison. In fact my brother and I got to the point of attacking people who even began to seem to "dis" us. After being bullied for a few months we subconsciously figured out that if you went apeshit on anyone challenging you it led to everyone leaving you alone out of fear. It was exactly like establishing cred in a prison.
When we moved away it took several years to put that violent reaction down, I still find in certain situations my first urge is to retaliate to even minor conflicts with insane over-compensating rage.

I dont recommend sending your kids to public school in the Dallas area.

Lauren said...

Brad Said..."This does not make it vanish. If only seeing that something is not logical would make it go away! We've been trying that tactic forever and it still doesn't work."

Thanks for that. I have been struggling with the issue that I can feel all these less-than-generous feelings chase around in my head and its difficult to reconcile with what I suppose the "ideal Buddhist mental state" should be.

This from Brad nails a new thesis I've been wondering about... "knowing you are someone who has all this firestorm in your head of (so-called) negative feelings, accept that, and decide the 'next step'"

I think I believe that anyone who claims to be "at peace" is hiding something, denying something or selling something.

buddy said...

Brad,

Putting these 2 quotes together:

'Some of your habitual reactions you are not aware of until someone says something to you about them.
I was not aware that I eat my cereal obnoxiously loudly until one of my roommates complained about it. This is because for most of my life I've eaten my cereal alone. When I eat breakfast with others it's never cereal, and even when I was married I almost always woke up earlier than my wife and I still ate it by myself.'

'But what I'm trying to express here is that the Zen practice has allowed me the space to be able to step back a bit from that process. None of what goes through my head is what I "really think" in the sense that I am obliged to hold fast to it and establish it as my position on a given subject. And that, of course, is not just true for me. It's true for all of us.'

With all due respect, sometimes I think you may not be as free of your shit as you think you are. You seem to get awfully defensive whenever anyone criticizes you, your music or your writing.

Brad Warner said...

Buddy said:
With all due respect, sometimes I think you may not be as free of your shit as you think you are. You seem to get awfully defensive whenever anyone criticizes you, your music or your writing.

My reply:
Did I claim to be completely "free of my shit?"

I think this is another example of the way people read things with their own invented voices. We all do that. But it's important not to believe it.

I'm aware that my opinions, my music and writing isn't for everyone. But I'm also allowed to defend them. This defense seems emotionally charged IF YOU READ IT AS IF I'M SHOUTING IT. But I swear to you it's usually not.

I'm sure this will seem defensive too. Ah well...

Brad Warner said...

Lauren, I've long thought the same of people who claim to be at peace.

Now that I'm in the Zen business, I can see what happens backstage. It's not so difficult to play a specific role while you're in the public eye. But it's impossible to do it 24/7.

If you choose to play the "at peace" role, someday someone is going to catch you kicking your dog or screwing your student. It's a dangerous game to play.

On the other hand, the rewards for playing that game are *much* higher than the rewards you get for being honest. So maybe I should start playing that game...

Brad Warner said...

Mysterion said:
I used to have a guy who worked for me that was prone to fits of rage. One time he went to Fry's to buy a new Hard Disk Drive and they asked him id he wanted to buy the extended warranty. Seagates, at the time, only has a three year warranty.

My reply:
Yeah. There is a difference between feeling rage and giving in to fits of rage.

I am a veteran of fits of rage. None of my closet doors ever worked when I was younger because I would take my rage out on them. My car dashboard always had a dent in it.

There is a myth, though, that you can get free of rage itself. I don't think that happens. It diminishes when you cease to habitually feed it whenever it pops up. But it's still there as a habitual initial reaction.

buddy said...

Brad said,

'Did I claim to be completely "free of my shit?"'

No, nor did I say you said that. I said 'you may not be as free of your shit as you think you are'. And I only brought it up because of your cereal munching analogy, it seemed almost like an invitation.

And maybe the self-defense thing is not so much a question of the incompleteness of your zen practice, as just not being that cool. You know, let the heathens rage, be a dude and suck it up.

Brad Warner said...

John e. Mumbles said:
Zoinks! Brad...That's YOU in that graduation photo! I thought it was a chick.

My reply:
When I delivered mail in rural Ravenna, Ohio a couple years after that photo was taken, old men would call me a "mail lady." A few times guys in car drove by and honked and whistled at me.

It was weird.

Anonymous said...

Brad,

Just back from a jog. It's cold out and the t-shirt I was wearing rubbed my nipples and really irritated them. For the record, I'm a young, fit male with no obvious physical problems.

What advice can you give me?

Thanks in advance,
Anonymous

Uku said...

Anon, wow! I also just came from jogging. My nipples are not irritated though.

Anonymous said...

I'm not joking! Freaking hurts! Sort of an equivalent of a paper cut in terms of irritation.

I got in the shower and just the water alone stung.

Brad Warner said...

Put band-aids on your nipples?

An American friend in Japan, Sam, used to complain that the Japanese laundry powder was much stronger than the American stuff and that this irritated his nipples.

Perhaps it's something like that?

Brad Warner said...

Soulagent79 said:
Peer pressure can be VERY cruel though! You say they thought of you as a 'faggot' and they liked to beat up such kind of guys. They never beat up YOU though, did they? At least you never mentioned it.

I got threatened a lot in high school, but was never actually beaten up. I'm not sure precisely why. I think it's because I was not quite wimpy-looking enough. I suspect I had just enough bulk on me that they feared I might be able to fight back. I also had a bit of a reputation as a hot-head.

Thanks for the song! I like it! You should post a link.

Anonymous said...

Fellow ANON:

JOGGER'S NIPPLE

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Anonymous said...

May your nipples chafe to the point of distraction, Mysterion.

Soulagent79 said...
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Soulagent79 said...

Ok, so here's a link to my song "Hardcore Zen"...

Hardcore Zen

Enjoy...!

Anonymous said...

A mushroom cloud
Silently rising in your mind,
Drop the A-bomb on Brad's yearbook!!!

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

mysterion is such a douche.

Anonymous said...

HCZ tune rocks!

Avalokita said...

Form is emptiness; emptiness is Form.

Fritos and Cheetos are made from real corn.

Anonymous said...

and now for something completely different - the rest of the world

Discover magazine
Most atheists are not white

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/11/most-atheists-are-not-white/


TED talks
Martin Jacques: Understanding the rise of China

http://www.ted.com/talks/martin_jacques_understanding_the_rise_of_china.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2011-01-25&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email

Anonymous said...

People once stood in front of my face (e.g. at work) screaming at me. When I did not react - at all - others wondered why. "What," they asked, "is wrong with that a-hole..."

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

High School...are we still discussing this? Maybe it's time to move on?

not always so said...

mysterion will return and return and has returned and returned...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return

Nietzsche said...

His most recent past life was as Mary Baker Eddy.

Anonymous said...

I like how, early on in the comments, Mysterion imagined himself as some sort of advisor/counselor to Brad and started trying to break down what Brad wrote for the purpose of "helping" Brad get past it.

LOL, bored much, Mysterion? Delusional is more like it. You don't really think anyone wants your unsolicited advice, do you?

Anonymous said...

We all gotta get through the days someway, Anon. :)

If I have to tell stories about myself and imagine that I'm in some position to give someone unsolicited advice, then so be it. If that's what Mysterion is doing, then so be it.

sobeit said...

sure sounds like anon 108. doesn't it? :)

Anonymous Bob said...

Sorbeit: If you mean the thoughtful, compassionate tone of the comment, then yeah, I can see where you might think that.

CAPTCHA : tracesnif : I kid you not

Mysterion said...
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RU Ghey? said...

awww, Anon Bob is anon 108's buddy and 108 is mysterion's buddy...awww

Anonymous Bob said...

"There is no end to amusement in studying their sorted histories."

SORDID?

Sort of funny, your delusion that you're in a position to look upon them with amusement.

Anonymous Bob said...

Boo!

Anonymous Bob said...

Note: the original Anonymous Bob isn't me. Look for the picture beside the name to make sure who you're reading. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, we gathered that anyway from your lack of CAPTCHAS.



CAPTCHA: fakeassmofo -I kid you not.

Anonymous Bob said...

CAPTCHA: cuntlips: I kid you not

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

I challenge anyone who claims to be "laid-back" or "chilled out" to spend 5 minutes in a room with me on a bad day.

Anonymous said...

fuck obama
and his puppetmasters
and the suckers who voted for him

Gummo said...

After some consideration and hesitancy, I have decided to offer my political endorsement in the U.S. presidential race:

GO BARACK!

(having my endorsement should finally put him over the top!!)

Although our Way transcends all differences and petty politics, and is beyond war and poverty and a lack of health care ... yet it certainly is about those things too!

My Brother, Brad Warner, recently published an essay which I agree with in part, yet strongly disagree with in part ... He wrote:

Politics take place in the realm of the human mind, where good and evil exist. Politicians are like stage magicians using sleight of hand to draw attention away from reality.

It’s none of my business who you vote for. I’m sure you agree with that. But I’ve been pretty horrified by what I’ve seen from a number of American Buddhist teachers who think it is their business. Way too many Buddhist teachers and Buddhist centers in this country think that Buddhism and liberal politics are one and the same. ...

My own teacher’s teacher, Kodo Sawaki, said, “The right wing is completely wrong. The left wing is also completely wrong.”
...
Listen. Voting is good. So get out there and vote. But watch your level of excitement about the process. Those highs and lows are damaging. For all the feelings of loss, disenfranchisement, and powerlessness the guys who wanted to make that book about Bush’s re-election felt, the world survived his second term more or less in tact. I may be too cynical about the whole thing, but I’ve always loved that joke where an Englishman tries to explain American politics to a fellow Englishman. “On the one hand they have the Republican party which is analogous to our Conservative party,” he says, “and on the other hand they have the Democratic party, which is analogous to our Conservative party.”

Perhaps the very slight differences between one candidate and another have some value. I would never say they didn’t. Just don’t get your panties in a bunch if your guy loses or celebrate the ultimate triumph of good over evil if he wins. I‘m sure all of you politicos reading this will say you already know that. But any scan of the TV when the results are announced will prove otherwise. All that elation and all that hopelessness ripple outward like a wave.

The balance that you retain or lose right now will ultimately have a far greater effect upon the world than who gets elected.


Brad is, once again, just flat wrong. We simply cannot have our heads in the sand as he suggests. Yes, we should not cling to one sided opinions. Yes, we should not see the world in "us" versus "them" terms. Yes, the true "revolution" must start within each of us. But the fact of the matter is that, for all its imperfections, politics does make a difference.

Much damage has been done to my country and to the world these past 8 years.

It is not time to look away. It is time to start the healing.

Anonymous said...

"What fuels suspicions of conspiracy is the reluctance to address the sort of awkward gaps and contradictions in the official explanations that David Ray Griffin (and other devoted scholars of high integrity) have been documenting in book after book ever since his authoritative The New Pearl Harbor in 2004 (updated in 2008). What may be more distressing than the apparent cover up is the eerie silence of the mainstream media, unwilling to acknowledge the well-evidenced doubts about the official version of the events: an al Qaeda operation with no foreknowledge by government officials. Is this silence a manifestation of fear or cooption, or part of an equally disturbing filter of self-censorship? Whatever it is, the result is the withering away of a participatory citizenry and the erosion of legitimate constitutional government. The forms persist, but the content is missing."
-- Richard Falk, UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights in the Palestinian Territories

merciless said...

"I challenge anyone who claims to be "laid-back" or "chilled out" to spend 5 minutes in a room with me on a bad day"

I accept the challenge. Can I suck your dick?

jundo cohen said...

Hi,

Just stepping in here a moment to say that there is some trickster who seems to be taking things I write over at Treeleaf to repost them here, often changing the words to make it look like something very different, and some big disagreement between Brad and me.

Stop it. You are dishonest.

For example, my original words in the above ...

I must disagree with Brad on some of that,

became in the lie makers hands ...

Brad is, once again, just flat wrong.

http://www.treeleaf.org/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?search=obama&IncludeBlogs=2&limit=20

It is a small change, but it tries to make some small disagreement on something as unimportant as "politics" look like some great conflict between Brad and me that, obviously, was not there in the original.

Someone needs to work with the Precepts on Gossip and Honest a touch more perhaps?

I will step back out now.

Gassho, Jundo (the real one**)

** as 'real' as things get in Buddhism, anyway.:-)

anon #108 said...

Correction appreciated, Jundo.

Gerald said...

Hi Jundo, I think you have to take some of the blame for any trolling in your direction. You do have a history of over-reacting to situations in rather different and amusing ways. Even now while you're showing some restraint, you might have been better off just letting things go, or sending Brad a private email with a short explanation. But it appears you can't help yourself when it comes to going public on how you want to be perceived, which seems starkly different than the reality. Most people around here know about your own trolling history..

Remember when you wrote to Gniz, "So, we are supposed to believe you, an admitted scandal hound and gay lover to Gerald, but not the guy (Yourself) you accuse of have any evil side. Oh, sorry that I mentioned that you take it up the butt from Gerald when you get together and you gave him crabs. That is based on confidential information I am privy to. I do not disclose the source because I have ethics. "

Thanks for that Jundo. I agree that "Someone needs to work with the Precepts on Gossip and Honest a touch more perhaps?"

anon 666 said...

Edification appreciated Gerald.

Grandpa Troll said...

Where have all the young trolls gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the young trolls gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the young trolls gone?
Taken precepts every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Anonymous said...

Correction GREATLY appreciated, Jundo. Your words had been HORRIBLY twisted. Good thing that you just happened to stop by here on some random fluke so that you could fix what that evildoer posted. I'm sure you virtually never check the comments here... maybe once or twice a year, tops.

Harpo said...

Often changing the words to make it look like something VERY different!

Like night and day, I tell you!

Alex Trebeck, IV said...

Hey Gniz,

So, we are supposed to believe you, an admitted scandal hound and gay lover to Gerald, but not the guy (Yourself) you accuse of have any evil side? Oh, sorry that I mentioned that you take it up the butt from Gerald when you get together and you gave him crabs. That is based on confidential information I am privy to. I do not disclose the source because I have ethics.

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anon #108 said...

Yeah yeah and whatever...We condemn ourselves out of our own mouths often enough. We don't need help from other people.

Deliberately sexing up a report to justify or promote aggression is generally not regarded as a good thing.

anon said...

108: I must have missed something.. What are you referring to?

anon #108 said...

Huh?

Captcha = ingulf. Fuck me!

anon said...

108: Was "Yeah yeah and whatever"
a response to 9:40.. or someone else?

Gerald said...

I'd just like to point out that I've never had crabs.

anon said...

*sigh*

#100

OsamaVanHalen said...
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anon #108 said...

All clear, anon? ;)

jundo cohen said...

A --very very-- stupid thing to do would be to try to make a debating point about the gossipy, innuendo-filled, "buttbuddying", made up stories "based on unconfirmed inside information" atmosphere of the buddho-blogosphere by making a tasteless parody of a gossipy, innuendo-filled, "butt buddy" joke based on an "unconfirmed inside tip". An even stupider thing to do would be to make a point about why "gentle speech", not name calling, is the way to go in most cases by calling someone an absolutely filthy name as "see how that feels." And an even dumber thing is to get so hot under the collar about people being angry on the internet spreading baseless rumors, that one gets angry in doing all of the above.

Alas, we human beings have our "Holy" moments when we act like Perfect Little Buddhas should ... and our "Assholey" moments in which we do anything but (including our "Holier than Thou" moments). Fortunately, most of us spend most of life somewhere in between and, hopefully, can sail our boat closer to the former than the latter.

All that can be done is reflect, apologize, move on ...

All Evil Karma Ever Committed By Me Since Of Old ...

Gassho, Jundo

PS - I do look in here most days to see the goings on. I don't post here, however.

jundo cohen said...

of the buddho-blogosphere

That should read "some corners of the buddho-blogosphere."

Now I atone it all said...

"I don't post here"

Posted at 7:19 PM