Monday, December 27, 2010

Brad and Skylar Answer Your Questions


Brad Warner, author of "Hardcore Zen" and "Sex Sin and Zen" and his 14 year old niece Skylar Goldman answer questions from readers of Brad's blog hardcorezen.blogspot.com.

122 comments:

Mysterion said...
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Seagal Rinpoche said...

You must learn to be still in the midst of activity and to be vibrantly alive in repose.

Anonymous said...

Good answers, and good luck with your egg. mu!

:)

sea gull said...

“You must learn to be still in the midst of activity and to be vibrantly alive in repose.” —Indira Gandhi.

Indira Priyadarshini Nehru, a.k..a. Indira Nehru Gandhi, was born on November 19, 1917 and was the only child of Jawaharlal Nehru. She served four terms as prime minister before being assassinated by Sikh extremists in 1984.

Sea-gull-ski is no Nehru

john e mumbles said...

Jack Bruce
Noel Redding
Flea
Jack Cassidy
Dee Dee Ramone
Bill Wyman
Billy Cox
Bootsy
Charlie Drayton
Mingus
Ron Klaus
Tina Weymouth
Malcolm anon 108
....

Anonymous said...

Why does one person want to know
what another thinks about 9/11?

Because it's the quickest way to
determine whether they have their
head up their ass or not.

Brad Warner said...

If I'd been better prepared I would have mentioned Gene Simmons, Klaus Voormann, Tom Evans, Geezer Butler, Jerry Casale, Bill Black, Mike Offender, Lemmy, Joe Nofziger and, of course, Johnny Graves.

Brad Warner said...

Annon said:
"Why does one person want to know
what another thinks about 9/11? Because it's the quickest way to
determine whether they have their
head up their ass or not."

I suspect that's not actually the answer. I suspect it's the same motivation as a religious person who demands that others have "faith" in what he believes. He needs support.

Also since I'm semi-almost-famous, it would have some minor value to add my name to those who believe in the cause.

If you must know, I do have some reservations about the official story of 9/11. But the conspiracy theories offered thus far are way too elaborate and convoluted for me to take them seriously.

I was in Japan when that whole thing went down. I remember going all over the Internet in the days that followed hoping to see some kind of answer. And then it dawned on me. None of the people I was reading really knew anything. Not even those who constructed the official story.

Conspiracy types think there must be an answer and that someday they'll discover it. But there is no answer to be found. It's like trying to find the so-called "meaning of life." It melts away before you can get your grip on it.

burado said...

Didn't answer my question D:

anon #108 said...

Moi? Aww, john.

Close seconds -

Macca
Phil Lesh!
Jack Casady

And everybody else.

Anonymous said...

"I suspect that's not actually the answer. I suspect it's the same motivation as a religious person who demands that others have "faith" in what he believes. He needs support."

Maybe, or maybe not...

Or perhaps it's still holding out
the hope that people who have been
sitting a long time are able to see
things a little more clearly than
average. (Is that too much to ask?)

Yeah, and unfortunately, the 9/11
types need others' support if the
true perps are ever gonna be
subpoenaed and brought to justice.

If you can subpoena people, then
they risk perjury, and when that
happens, then the whole can of worms
opens and all the scum start
ratting on each other (if
they're not already dead.)

150 years ago people asked each
other if they were pro- or anti-
slavery. Today, the 9/11 question
is pretty much the same.

Anyhow, thanks for taking the time
to share your views.
Much appreciated.

But if you want to take one step
further, just answer...

Building 7

Controlled demolition or not?
Cheers.

gouskin said...

Wiki-leaks, I think they should shut up. - Brad Warner

Brad.. Do you really think that? Why? I'm disappointed.

thewaterfront said...

Ouch. You guys skipped my question. That makes me anxious :-P

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

James Jamerson?

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

Um, Pearl Harbor was the birth of the
military-industrial complex that is
bankrupting the US today.

And 9/11 was just a few trillion
more and the evisceration of
the Bill of Rights -- the document
that makes Americans American.

9/11 fleeces the flock of American
taxpayers, so it is still very much
alive today. (Have you been expensively
scanned or groped lately by the TSA --
Totalitarian Submission Assholes?

(Granted, the RCC is pretty fucking
evil too.)

Anonymous said...

Somebody accused Mysterion of being an obsessive-compulsive? My God, how could they get such an idea.

Mysterion said...
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Soulagent79 said...

Why do you think Wikileaks should shut up? Isn't it good to tell people the truth?

anon #108 said...

Isn't it good to tell people the truth?

Not always, no.

It can be hurtful, harmful, even dangerous, to indiscriminately tell everybody everything that has been said about them by everybody else. Responsible, caring people don't do it.

RDeWald said...

I am sincerely astonished that Skylar gave the most insightful answer I've heard to Case 1 of the Wu-men Kuan. Deep gassho.

Blake said...

HA! That was awesome! What a great way to spend time with your niece.

Brad Warner said...

Anon 108 summed up my feelings, such as they are, about Wikileaks.

I actually haven't been following this story very closely and only barely understand what Wikileaks are. But what little I do understand about them (it?) makes me think it's (they're?) mostly useless and sometimes damaging without a whole lot of positive attributes.

Also, I wouldn't believe anything posted on Wikileaks any sooner than I'd believe most of the useless rumors and other such nonsense all over the Internet already.

tattoozen said...

Brad,

Why did you dodge my cock size question? I'd like to know the dimensions, dude.

Soulagent79 said...
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Soulagent79 said...

Brad, I see your point about Wikileaks. I think the stuff they recently published about the US ambassadors is just gossip. Thanks for your answer.

Fowl Mood said...

regarding cocks: "And from what I experienced, the size does not diminish their noise level."

OsamaVanHalen said...

The REAL truth about 9/11...1893.
http://www.swamij.com/swami-vivekananda-1893.htm

gouskin said...

Malcolm: I suppose you can compare the way you want your neighborhood to be with the way a government functions but that is comparing too different things. In a Democracy the press is there to get you information. They cannot be allowed to be treated like criminals. I'm amazed how someone like Brad could say, "I think they should shut up." He doesn't have to think about anything he doesn't want to but it's generally a good thing for the public to have information about the privileged class who runs their affairs.

buddy said...

Brad Warner said: 'I actually haven't been following this story very closely and only barely understand what Wikileaks are. But what little I do understand about them (it?) makes me think it's (they're?) mostly useless and sometimes damaging without a whole lot of positive attributes.'

well, maybe next time you speak about something of such ubiquity and (possible) global significance you should do more than 'barely understand' that of which you speak. As far as I can tell, Wikileaks is about restoring transparency to our so-called democracy, or at least facing the fact that we don't have democracy; that instead of our elected representatives being our public servants they just do whatever the hell they want.

If your apathy in the face of this comes out of a deeply considered anarchism, where all this proto-fascism is just taken for granted and the best response of the individual is to take responsibility for making their world a better place, I can totally respect that. But if it's just plain old apathy, then I would encourage you to be a bit more considerate about how you express your opinions on such matters.

gouskin said...

Julian Assange is Not Abbie Hoffman although I think both Malcolm and Brad think he is.

tattoozen said...

Looking to learn the penis size of the following people:

Brad Warner

&

Seagal Rinpoche

anon #108 said...

Hi gouskin,

I suppose you can compare the way you want your neighborhood to be with the way a government functions but that is comparing too different things.

I'm not so sure. Politics is people, no?

and Buddy,

Your comment was addressed to Brad, but this is pretty much how I see it:

If your apathy in the face of this comes out of a deeply considered anarchism, where all this proto-fascism is just taken for granted and the best response of the individual is to take responsibility for making their world a better place, I can totally respect that.

I wouldn't call what politicians and diplomats do "proto-fascism", and I wouldn't call my view "a deeply considered anarchism" - but perhaps they are. The labels don't mean very much, I think. But yes, I do 'take for granted' the kind of behaviour and comments made by our representatives and exposed by wikileaks - I've not been at all surprised by any of the revelations I've so far read about what's been said behind closed doors.

Like I said, such information can be harmful; "telling the truth"/making all information available to everybody isn't always and necessarily "good". But perhaps, in time, we'll all agree that Wikileaks has made the world a better place...We'll see.

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anon #108 said...

There again, my attitude is no doubt influenced by my belief that the activities of the vast majority of individuals that comprise the political class are not motivated by a desire to scam/rip off/destroy civilization as we know it. I believe most of them are just ordinary, deluded people doing the best they can to make things better for them and us in the only way they know how. Being ordinary, deluded people they make mistake after mistake. Often very big ones.

Am I a cynic? An Idealist? A realist? My oldest mate keeps telling me I'm just a very ordinary, deluded person. What can you do, eh?

Anonymous said...

Youse twose get outta the way
I want to see more of Sabrina

Her answers (what few camara hog skylar allowed her to answer) were spot on
And why not wait for Ben to give some input?
We, on the side of questions, want to hear answers from all perspectives
sharing the limelight might work best--a panel discussion as it were.

buddy said...

108: 'the vast majority of individuals that comprise the political class are not motivated by a desire to scam/rip off/destroy civilization as we know it. I believe most of them are just ordinary, deluded people doing the best they can to make things better for them and us in the only way they know how. Being ordinary, deluded people they make mistake after mistake. Often very big ones.'

this may very well be true. but i think political institutions and structures can take on a life of their own, greater than the sum of their parts as it were, that frustrate, complicate and subvert the best intentions of the people involved. and when these structures include ye olde military/industrial complex and esp. corporatism (which appears to be one of, if not the, biggest forces in the political sphere right now)then the 'desire to scam/rip off/destroy civilization as we know it' becomes more of a deciding factor than i'm comfortable with. but again, the question arises: what the hell to do about it?!

Anonymous said...

...your friend got it right!

What did Tennessee?

...the same thing that Arkansas.

Anonymous said...

Well I enjoyed that one. It wasn't awful. And I was pleased to see that I got my Pictionary question down in time for an answer!

Seegal Rinpoche said...

A rich man is nothing but a poor man with money.

Anonymous Bob said...

SEEGAL Rinpoche, you remind me very much of Seagal Rinpoche. You've chosen quite wisely with regard to your role model.

Anonymous said...

Adolph wasn't a bad man after all.. He was just ordinary, deluded person doing the best he could to make things better for us in the only way he knew how.

Chocolate said...

Adolph got by with a little help from his friends.

Soulagent79 said...

The most shocking aspect about Adolf is that he probably wasn't mentally sick at all. He was a "normopath", otherwise he wouldn't have been able to cause so much suffering.

anonymous anonymous said...

bRAD:
you should use the B/W pic of you and skylar (the tongue pic) on the cover of your next book. it is a great pic.

Brad Warner said...

Buddy, I just don't see what use there is in my forming an opinion on Wikileaks or who is truly responsible for 9/11.

Soulgent79's sarcasm is lost on me since I don't know what he's talking about.

How much information does a person really need? I think this is a key question. We stuff our heads full of information and work hard on forming and holding on to opinions. But what do we really do about any of it?

Back in '83 my friends in the band Starvation Army wrote a song called "Millions of Songs About Dead Cops" in response to the band Millions of Dead Cops (and probably to 0DFx, who were getting a bit too "serious" even for me).

"Millions of songs about dead cops. Millions of Songs about the bomb. What are you gonna do about the cops? What are you gonna do about the bomb?"

This afternoon I had to rush out of my sister's house to deal with a medical emergency in the family. This is where my responsibility lies. I can't solve the 9/11 mysteries. I can't do very much about ... uh ... whatever is going on with those ambassadors.

I know some people think it's awful that I wouldn't have strong opinions on these things. But I've found that I can live better without them.

I seem to have offended both of you. I apologize.

gouskin said...

Brad: The offensive thing isn't that you have little interest in government but that you think we would be better off not knowing what government is up to. Your "Wiki-leaks, I think they should shut up." comment was just plain weird to me. But whatever, maybe you were joking. But you do think there is a place in a democracy for the press right??

Hope everything is OK with your family.

Anonymous said...

Gouskin, Wiki leaks is both good and bad. Exposing corruption is a good thing. releasing the location of the pentagons underground communication cables is bad. It does not expose corruption and it threatens the nations security. there are some things that need to be exposed and there are military secrets that should not be exposed. I hope we can all agree that both are true.

Anonymous said...

Brad, I think you're a good Zen teacher and I am really glad you do what you do. Thanks for all of it.

anon #108 said...
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anon #108 said...

Brad wrote: "Soulgent79's sarcasm is lost on me since I don't know what he's talking about."

I read Soulgent's question and comments as sincere...including the one about US ambassadors/gossip. Did I miss something?

anon #108 said...

Otherwise...What Brad said.

Mysterion said...
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tattoozen said...

tattoozen 7:46 isnt me. not sure why he or she would try to pretend to be me. Sounds like someone with an axe to grind. Feel free to email me directly and we can talk about why your mad at me.


Cocksize is something i just fantasize about i dont need silly "facts" to mess up that picture.

Anonymous said...

"I never concerned myself - for even a moment - with that which was beyond the reach of my katana."

If you pay taxes, then both 9/11 and Wikileaks
are within your reach, because they have been
paid for with your money. If you are a tax
protestor, then you are correct, they are
beyond your reach.

Also, ignoring things beyond your reach, such
as an approaching tidal wave, may not be the
best strategy for keeping things well-arranged
within your little bubble.

Eventually, your bubble will be popped by
outside forces that you could have avoided
had you only acted sooner.

What?

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Anonymous said...

Anonymous @ 8:14 knows how to get a point across.

well said.

gouskin said...

Yeah, WL is both good and bad. But it is a news agency not a propaganda resource. It has information that was leaked to it by the American government. It isn't about judging whether the info is helpful or hurtful, because that judgment is subjective. It gets raw information from GOVERNMENT sources and releases it to the public. The onus is not on Wiki-leaks to clean it up or propagandize it. Wiki-leaks is only the messenger. They are providing a valuable service by disclosing what our employees are up to. Why would a citiZEN want to censor information being leaked by a government about that same government?

Brad Warner said...

Maybe Soulagent wasn't being sarcastic. I'm so used to sarcasm in these pages. Sorry, Soulagent!

Lone Wolf said...

Answer to riddle: The man that walked into the bar had the...HICCUPS! Instead of giving him a glass of water, the bartender pulled a gun on him because scaring someone who has the hiccups makes the hiccups go away. The man said thank you to the bartender for curing his case of hiccups.

Soulagent79 said...

Brad, nevermind. :-)

proulx michel said...

In my early twenties, I had plenty of occasions to fall upon some maoists or other "revolutionaries". Whenever one would contradict them, they were always very prone to call you a "fascist".

Now, Mussolini gave a very interesting definition of what is a fascist, (and I suppose one can hold him for a sort of authority in the matter...). He said: "A fascist quits his own will, and puts himself to the exclusive service of the Guide, so that the Guide's will shall be actualised without obstacles".

Whenever I fell upon such "revolutionaries", I had a distinct impression that they would become just as oppressive and reactionary, if not more, than those leaders of the world at the time for whom they had such contempt.

Time has shown me I was right.

Seegal Rinpoche said...

The Fascist octopus has sung its swan song and the jackboot has been thrown into the melting pot.

Michael said...

I was just sitting here thinking about how much I really like what you wrote about love in Sex, Sin, and Zen. It was spot on.

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Anonymous said...

Has Skyler seen the "star wars" films?

What's her view of them?

gassho
Luke

john e mumbles said...

At lunch today I heard that Kevin Smith is producing a movie called Red State starring John Goodman about Republicans run amok killing everybody.

Smith said he's inventing a new genre: Political Horror

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

A fascist quits his own will, and puts himself to the exclusive service of the Guide

Mysterion would make a good Guide, I wonder if he would be corrupted though by absolute power?

tattoozen said...

How big is your dick and does it smell nice????

Anonymous said...

Gouski said "Why would a citiZEN want to censor information being leaked by a government about that same government?"
If it exposes corruption I would want it leaked. When it comes to sensitive info like the location of communication cables I would not want it leaked because it serves no useful purpose at all!
Wiki is not responsible for uncovering the info but they still share responsibility for the release of info.
Lets say I was told about secret comunication lines and I exposed it. Then terrorists tapped the lines and used the info to kill citizens. I would certanly share the blame for those deaths.
As good as it is for Wiki to expose corruption it is wrong for them to endanger citizens by releasing info that could get honest people killed. They have a moral duty as humans to expose corruption and also to not endanger inoccent lives.

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Jason said...

Hokay This is Jason, Formerly "Tattoozen". Since some internet tough guy has hijacked my name im posting under this name now. Any future posts under the minker "Tattoozen" will be the anonymous clown sniper.

anonymous anonymous said...

Forget all the shit you've learned! If we want to make an omelet, we need to break a few rotten eggs. People, look out for yourselves, when the revolution comes we will be searching out Bourgeoisie (rock) musicians first. Then the teachers. See you soon hysterion! China showed us the way. Sorry about your luck Brad but writers of non-revolutionary texts are out also.. It will suck for a generation or so, but then it will be Spring.

dharmapiglet said...

Brad, I'm so grateful for you and your books and your blog. Thank you for your wisdom and your writing.
Sabrina and Skylar, you are hilarious! Thanks for the great Christmas video!

Seegal Rinpoche said...

You can't masturbate without lust.

Jason said...
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Anonymous said...

"If I blogged to complain about everyone who makes untrue statements about me, it would be a full-time job."

Barry Graham 12-29-2010

bizarro seagal said...

What a strange illusion it is to suppose that beauty is goodness.

Sea Gull Rinposter said...

Masters - some of them can't teach you anything.

Masters - can any of them teach you nothing?

Anonymous said...

Skylar you rock! And yeah you're a hottie. Take care and have compassion for ugly people too.

Anonymous said...

One hand clapping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8muy8XHN52I&feature=grec_index

OsamaVanHalen said...

Three pounds of bull shit.

Anonymous said...

I think it is useful, when discussing something like WikiLeaks, to check out their website itself instead of just relying on what other media outlets say about it (Isn't that sort of a Buddhist thing anyway?). I finally did so after a couple of days, and it seems to me that the supposed endangerment of "our people" by the leaks could easily be a tale concocted by the Pentagon and their buddies, as happened with the Pentagon Papers (where no one was actually harmed although the Pentagon screamed bloody murder).

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Anonymous said...

bullshit is different from bullshit. Neither is worth much although I can see where You might think so M.

Anonymous said...

Oops.. That was a little sarcastic. Damn

Anonymous said...

I don't know how I'm going to muster the strength to read M's views concerning his pet obsessions and not be sarcastic.. But I'm vowing to try.

Anonymous said...

When Brad said, "Maybe Soulagent wasn't being sarcastic. I'm so used to sarcasm in these pages."

I thought.. I might be responsible for that misunderstanding by always reacting to the HCZ blog BS with sarcasm..

No more.

buddy said...

the last 2 comments i tried to post were never published. while critical of Brad's take on wikileaks, they were not trollish in the least. hmm.

popeye said...

Buddy, Try again. It was probably a glitch.

anonymous anonymous said...

hysterion said: "I suspect Brad knows EXACTLY what he is doing... messin' wit' yo' perception.

ROFLMAO

it's what Zen masters do..."

I suspect that hysterion is imagining things again.

OsamaVanHalen said...

Bull shit comes out of a bull.

Bullshit comes out of your mouth.

Unless you ate some bull shit and then threw it up in which case it would be neither bull shit nor bullshit but vomit.

Fred D. Krueger said...

Jason,
Nice to see you again. I just want you to know I'm going to get even with you for cutting my head off in our last movie. Ha ha.

Comment deleted said...

What's your porn star name? There are three ways of going about this, pick the best one for you.

Method 1. Take your middle name and the name of your first pet. Put them together for your porn star name.

Method 2. Substitute your first pet's name with the name of the street you grew up with.

Method 3. and usually the best one, take your first pet's name and the street you grew up on

Post the funniest one.

Mysterion said...
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Brad Warner said...

Buddy,

I haven't deleted any comments for a long time. I only delete spammers and people who are trying to use the comments section for their own agendas.

buddy said...

brad, i didn't think so. probably just a sign that nobody needs to read my bs anyway.

Anonymous said...

anon said: "That photo is wonderful. A beautiful young girl sits coolly sipping her drink while an older man looks on crazed and overheated."

mysterion said: "re: that picture
Y' all:
I suspect Brad knows EXACTLY what he is doing... messin' wit' yo' perception.
ROFLMAO
it's what Zen masters do..."

So Brad, Is mysterion right? Were you messin wit our subconscious? Or was it as I suspect, just a fun spontaneous snapshot?

anon said...

Brad, 1:00 AM?

OsamaVanHalen said...

Brad said:
"I only delete spammers and people who are trying to use the comments section for their own agendas."

Umm...I think you missed a few.

OsamaVanHalen said...

Brad said:
"I only delete spammers and people who are trying to use the comments section for their own agendas."

Umm...I think you missed a few.

108 said...

I don’t really get what is meant by “people who are trying to use the comments section for their own agendas”.

Jason said...

Brad,

PLEASE fucking state your cock size!!

Anonymous said...

The fake jason/108 guy seems to have some kind of ignorant adgenda. I'm just saying.

Soulagent79 said...

"The fake jason/108 guy seems to have some kind of ignorant adgenda. I'm just saying."

Sigmund Freud would love this guy! ;-)

Anonymous said...

March 11, 2008
An interview with Nicholas Maxwell author of From Knowledge to Wisdom: A Revolution for Science and the Humanities.
From Knowledge to Wisdom argues that there is an urgent need, for both intellectual and humanitarian reasons, to bring about a revolution in science and the humanities. The outcome would be a kind of academic inquiry rationally devoted to helping humanity learn how to create a better world. The basic intellectual aim of inquiry would be to seek and promote wisdom — wisdom being the capacity to realize what is of value in life for oneself and others, thus including knowledge and technological know-how, but much else besides.

According to Maxwell, "Natural science has been extraordinarily successful in increasing knowledge. This has been of great benefit to humanity. But new knowledge and technological know-how increase our power to act which, without wisdom, may cause human suffering and death as well as human benefit. All our modern global problems have arisen in this way: global warming, the lethal character of modern war and terrorism, vast inequalities of wealth and power round the globe, rapid increase in population, rapid extinction of other species, even the aids epidemic (aids being spread by modern travel). All these have been made possible by modern science dissociated from the rational pursuit of wisdom. If we are to avoid in this century the horrors of the last one — wars, death camps, dictatorships, poverty, environmental damage — we urgently need to learn how to acquire more wisdom, which in turn means that our institutions of learning become devoted to that end.

For nearly 30 years Maxwell taught the Philosophy of Science at the University College London, where he is now Emeritus Reader in Philosophy of Science and Honorary Senior Research Fellow. He is also the author of What's Wrong With Science?, The Comprehensibility of the Universe, and The Human World in the Physical Universe.



http://www.weeklysignals.com/weeklysignalsarc-2008.html





Episode 24 - Nicholas Maxwell
Listen to How To Think About Science - Episode 24 http://www.cbc.ca/common_radio/images/icon_speaker_c.gif (http://podcast.cbc.ca/mp3/thinkaboutscience_20080619_6336.mp3) (runs: 54:00)

http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/features/science/images/ep-24-maxwell-book.jpg
From Knowledge to Wisdom , by Nicholas Maxell. Published by Pentire Press, 2007. Science has been very successful at producing knowledge. But knowledge without wisdom, or science without civilization, is a dangerous thing, according to Nicholas Maxwell. And the reason we have the one without the other, he believes, is that science, as now practiced, does not question its own purposes or investigate its own presuppositions. It transforms the world but cannot transform itself. Nicholas Maxwell is a philosopher of science, now retired from University College, London, and the author of From Knowledge to Wisdom, first published in 1984 and just reissued in a revised edition. He argues – these are his own words – that: “We need a revolution in the aims and methods of academic inquiry, so that the basic aim becomes to promote wisdom by rational means, instead of just to acquire knowledge.” Nicholas Maxwell makes his case In the final episode of our series."



http://condeve.blogspot.com/2009/01/temp.html

Sir Ignorant Adgenda said...

I'm just sayen, bro, you got to learn to chill the hell out! 2011 is the year to chill so take it serious!!

Mumon said...

I have no questions.

What is your answer?

Anonymous said...

Chill all you want but don't expect people to like it when you use their name.

116 said...

6:04 am is not a fake. It’s comment #108. Count. (if you like)

Anonymous said...

no thanks

bizarro seagal said...

It is not necessary to understand, or believe, things in order to argue about them.

Brad size said...

Soulagent at7:37 am: you mean love as in the way you love men, or as in a good candidate for a Freudian anaylst's patient?

Soulagent79 said...

All I know is Freud related everything to the penis.

Bill Clinton said...

Well, you can tell he's a guy who loved a cigar.

john e mumbles said...

Is that supposed to be symbolic? Where do symbols end?

This is symbolic of that, that is symbolic of this.

Its alot of name-calling.