Saturday, March 13, 2010


I made it to North Carolina last night, thus completing my trek by car across this great land we call the United States. Drove over both of the country's mountain chains the rocky Rockies and the rolling Appalachians. I had a notion to drive an hour more to the Atlantic, thus touching both oceans. But I was too pooped. And anyway, the next day (today) I had to be on a plane for Houston Texas.

Check out the link to your right that says "Book Tour 2010" or whatever it says for details on my talk at the Houston Zen Center tomorrow morning. And the retreat I'm leading in Austin the following weekend.

I'll try to post again soon. But this one is mainly an excuse to a) plug the Houton talk and b) show you a pic of me and Zuiko Redding outside America's first mosque in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

My plane's about to board so I gotta go!


alan said...

Congratulations. Glad you made it and saw some great sights on the way.


Anonymous said...

2 :(

anon #108 said...

Ahh...North America.

I was there some decades ago, touring with a progressive rock combo (sorry USA). An awe-inspiring place. Very big.

I hope y'all grateful.

Mysterion said...

The Mother Masque...

Ah, another matrilineal society.

Mother earth, Ishtar, Venus, etc.

Makes one think...
(if one can think).

john e mumbles said...

Once you get to the top of the mountain (or to one of the coasts for that matter) keep climbing (driving).

Anonymous said...

It seems that our American Muslim friends hotly debate whether this was the first one. Its most accurate appellation would probably be, "Oldest surviving structure in North America originally built as a Mosque", but that sounds a lot clunkier. There were Muslims living in North America long before that (some were African slaves) and mosques in a few large cities, but those mosques were in previously existing buildings.

Mullah Nas Rootin Tootin said...

THERE it is.


Anonymous said...

Welcome back, Brad. Gonna have to miss you in Austin next week. The kids will be here so I'll be a bit busy!!! Hope you have a great visit and enjoy our Zendo!


CynicalBoy said...

Are rules not for fools?
And divisions just prisons?
Good? Bad? Top? Bottom?

Ordinary mind said...

There is a young cynic, a hakuist,
Who suggests all divisions are dualist,
While correct in a sense,
His name's a pretence;
He's not cynical - he's an idealist!

CynicalBoy said...

Rules not just for fools!
Divisions not just prisons!
Good! Bad! Top! Bottom!

Ran K. said...

Just something that doesn’t have to do with anything: (I haven’t even read Brad’s post yet)

I understand they had some trouble (on Friday) in eastern Jerusalem. I don’t read the papers so I don’t much of what’s it about. An Arab boy was hit by a car. A newspaper (“Yediot Aharonot”) has a photo of the boy being hit (unintentionally – they seem to have been after some other Arabs throwing stones) by a police car. However – the police insists – the boy claims he was hit by a white Subaru, seemingly driven by an Arab. The vehicle escaped from the accident’s location.

According to the newspaper this is an official response of the Jerusalem police spokesmanship.

I couldn’t find the pictures on the net. They do appear at the paper. Perhaps they’ll put it on their site later. (I happened to see this on today’s paper when I was at the supermarket. They give you a free one if you buy above a certain sum.)

IMO (RK.) said...

You sure look better on this picture than on the one you’re using for your blogger account. And on the previous one.

Smoggyrob said...

Hi everyone:

I'm not bitter or feeling abandoned or vengeful because Brad moved out of LA, but I would like to point out to the well-armed State of Texas that Brad just titled a post, "NORTH CAROLINA > TEXAS". Greater than Texas?! Get 'em, boys!


Universal mind said...

There is a young cynic, a haikuist,
Whose poem's been given a new twist.
While correct in a way,
We could go on all day -
There's no answer. Perhaps it's all "just this!"

john e mumbles said...

108 @2:54 sed: "I was there some decades ago, touring with a progressive rock combo (sorry USA)."

Do tell. The combo's name that is.

Mysterion said...

Blogger Ran K. said...
"I understand they had some trouble (on Friday) in eastern Jerusalem."

Then I will let them handle their own problem.

Perception: A driver, using his car, struck...

There is no responsibility here.

I once struck a squirrel while driving a motorized vehicle. I retrieved the poor thing and buried him in my own back yard with incense and prayers. I still do not think he was all the better for the experience.

Mysterion said...

Anonymous Universal mind said...
"There is a young cynic, a haikuist"

a haiku has seventeen syllables arranged in 5 - 7 - 5 form.

is the be gin ing
where the form is known to all
or is it sun rise?

be gin ning = 3 syllables

A Limerick is not a Haiku.

Limerick is in Ireland and the simple rhymes created at the local pubs spread as the new 'art form' called limericks. 14th c.

alan said...

Just something that doesn’t have to do with anything: (I haven’t even read Ran K's post yet)

I was going on a bike ride this morning. Its very windy, which I don't really like.

Anyhow, at one point I turned around to go with the wind and I heard/saw a movement by the side of the road. It turned out to be a bunch of chickens.

With the wind at my back, I was able to bicycle quite fast. It was fun.

Later on, I stopped at a roadside produce market, but I didn't buy anything.

And now I'm home, sitting on my ass typing a message on Brad's comment section.


anon #108 said...

I doubt if you would have heard of the band, john e - we were known in the UK, but our only exposure in the US was as support to symphonic proggers YES on their '74 tour of everywhere but the West Coast (we also supported them on their '75 UK tour)...and we were the first band British band to be signed by Clive Davis, who'd just left CBS and formed Arista Records. Times and fashions changed. He didn't take up the option of the fourth album, the only one I was on. It wasn't very good. I moved on.

The clues are there, but I'm not too proud of what I did then; I was very young. So the name remains my secret.

Hey mysti - I (ordinary/universal mind) am the limerick-ist, cynicalboy is the "young cynic", the haiku-ist. Keep up!

john e mumbles said...

Thanks 108: Gee, I won't blow your cover, mate. I know the band, not half bad, you sell yourself short. At the time I was into that music, and saw not only the big guns (the GENESIS Lamb Lies Down On Broadway tour comes to mind) but also sought out very obscure groups like NECTAR, for ex. It was what it was in that space/time, and a lot of fun it was, too.

PhilBob-SquareHead said...

Brad, please don't pollute my state with granola and patchouli oil.

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anon #108 said...

I know the band, not half bad, you sell yourself short.

The band was original, and the guys very talented, john e. But by the time I joined, it had lost direction - as had the whole hippy enterprise, I think. It was a lot of fun, though. Certainly.

Gee, I won't blow your cover, mate.

Thanks, john e...mind you, if it's gonna get hordes of screaming girls knocking on my door...

Nah, maybe not.

I did things in music later on that I'm more proud of. I'd like to drop more hints, if I can do it without looking...proud. Very difficult that. I'll probably leave it ;)

john e mumbles said...

I'd be kidding if I said I was not curious as to your other musical adventures, 108. Let pride be your guide.

My tastes in the '70's quickly shifted after seeing Peter Gabriel's first solo tour with openers TELEVISION. Here came Punk Rock, baby!

I had an opportunity to tour Europe with a band from Boston in the 90's and nearly did, but just before the tour they were dropped from their label (Capitol) after one not-very-well received album.

Glad I missed that boat!

Their singer/guitarist and I formed another group that was never signed (to a major), and we still work together some...

anon #108 said...

Here came Punk Rock, baby!

Seems we share some early influences! I too was swept away by the tide, and played a few gigs at The (now 'legendary', I'm told) Roxy in London (one track on the "Farewell to the Roxy" album)...and moved on.

Like you, I'm still doing it - in a small but satisfying way. Considering what's left of the music business these days (it never was a pleasant business, was it?), that may be the best way to do it.

john e mumbles said...

"in a small but satisfying way." Yes.

The Roxy! Very impressive indeed. I subscribed to NME for a few years around that time, I likely read a review.

Getting old I guess, that Boston band thing I mentioned was in the 80's not 90s...

My last two solo cd's were both produced by myself and a few friends...I loved the DIY aspect of early punk prior to it being co-opted like everything else, and try to infuse that spirit and enterprise into what I do today.

Mysterion said...


round about 1974 I hosted/MCed a bluegrass festival in a community college little theatre and actually played a couple of tunes on my acoustical 12 string (long since properly relegated to a land-fill). A friend captured it on 3/4" U-Matic videotape and then, 20 years later, sent me the cassette...

If I post it on youtube, how many vomit bags will I need to provide?

As many as there are the curious to click on it, I suppose.

And I am not kidding.

not in the least

alan said...

One a completely separate (and possibly spurious) level, I'm finding the current music dialog fascinating.

The reason why is that I frequently find that trying to follow the threads on this comment section difficult because it feels so non-linear to me.

I'm guessing it's because I'm an engineer by trade. By training I'm damn linear.

And to complete the thought, nearly every time I get a chance to listen to an interview of some (famous) musician that I admire, I find myself frustrated by the fragmented dialog.

So if everyone else here is a musical type, I'm doomed :-)

As a favor to me, please put all your future comments into equations, please.....

Mysterion said...

1 bgf + 3/4" = iVFb

one blue grass festival


a 3/4" tape (memory)


infinite Vomit Filled bags


what is the sound of one stomach retching?

Brad Warner said...

Anon #108, I am secretly a fan of prog rock. I found an interview with Zero Defex in 1983 in which the interviewer asked us our influences. The rest of the band cited Minor Threat, Black Flag, Dead Kennedys. I chimed in with, "Iron Butterfly and King Crimson." Our guitarist angrily growled, "Don't say that unless you mean it!" I very sheepishly replied, "But I do mean it."

We had a song called Lost Hope on which the bass line I devised was directly influenced by King Crimson circa 1974 (Red). They were my favorite band at the time.

The other funny thing was I knew our guitarist and chief songwriter was a huge fan of The Jam. Our singer and second biggest contributor of songs listened to Black Sabbath a lot. Our drummer had played in a pop-surf band. But in those days you weren't allowed to admit such influences.

I also dig lots of the Kraut Rock stuff like Neu!, Can and Kraftwerk. I had dreams of morphing Dimentia 13 from a psychedelic band into a prog rock band, just as we would have done if we'd been formed in the actual late 60s instead of the virtual late 60s of my fevered imagination. I really wish now that I'd followed through on that intention. We'd have done a three album set with one song on it or some such thing. And it would have been all about elves!

anon #108 said...

So if everyone else here is a musical type...

Mysti don't like the Beatles much, Alan, so no worries there.

Mind you...I would love to hear and see his acoustical performance in 1974. Were you playing blugrass, Chas? I luurve bluegrass.

It's all amatuer music, or should be. Go on, Chas - upload it.

Mysterion said...

On a different cord:

A long time ago,
in my reckless youth
as a college junior,
I went over to my main-stain's
to get laid.

She had an accordion
sitting next to her sofa.

She never saw me again.

On reflection, it was a wise decision. Very wise. And very decisive.

john e mumbles said...

Guy parks and goes into a bar forgetting to lock up the car with his accordion inside. He has a couple drinks, then freaks out, runs outside and sure enough, his car is full of accordions.

Myster Ion: post it for posterity's sake.

anon #108 said...

...I chimed in with, "Iron Butterfly and King Crimson." Our guitarist angrily growled, "Don't say that unless you mean it!"

LOL! Yes, there were some great things done back in them days. Although I draw the line at Iron Butterfly.

It was a real treat to hang out within drooling distance of Chris Squire - he leant me one of his early Rickenbacker 4001's (weighed a ton, surprisingly) when mine got stolen from the Glasgow Apollo on the British leg of that tour. I see you like Ricky's too!

anon #108 said...
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anon #108 said...


*I see you like Ricky's too!*

-- Should read, "I see you like Rickys too!"

I've no reason to suspect you've ever met Ricky, Brad.

Hohner thy mother & father said...

after 20 rounds...

Q: What is the definition of a true gentleman?

A: Somebody who knows how to play the accordion, but refuses.

john e mumbles said...

I saw Iron Butterfly 10 years on after their "hit" in a bar with about 50 other people. They kicked assus majorus.

Mysterion said...

I once, long long ago, picked a 12 string and my nose. I played ~ folk that bordered on bluegrass. I arrived in that place because I was a fan of corny humor and still like a good pun. "Plastic Jesus" was a standard.(a pun is an abbreviated punch line).

Now I only, on very rare occasion, pick my nose.

Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during the root canal? He wanted to transcend dental medication.

He stayed up all night wondering where the sun had gone. Then it dawned on him.

and so forth

john e mumbles said...

I wouldn't call them "prog-rock" though, unless you call Blue Cheer "jazz rock"?

Iron Butterfly were the definition of HEAVY, more proto-punk than a Stooges Funhouse kinda way.

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Brad Warner said...

Iron Butterfly's "Iron Butterfly Theme" is the heaviest thing ever. And I actually enjoy the long version of "Inna Gadda Da Vida." But I'm not as big a fan of their other stuff.

My "Ricky" is actually an Ibanez. Rickenbacker apparently goes after copy versions of their instruments like no one else in the business. So copies of Ricks are actually rarer than Rickenbackers themselves. The Ibanez copy, like all of their 70s copies of US guitars, is amazing. Japanese copy guitars of the 70s are almost always really good or in some cases better than the US makers were producing during those years.

Anonymous said...

Gadda da Vida

Iron Butterfly. It turns out the lead singer Doug Ingle was heavily under the influence the first time he heard the lyrics of the song (So a phrase was intended to be “In the Garden of Eden” became a much stranger sounding “In-A-Gadda-Di-Vida”.

word verification is codub

anon #108 said...

"Japanese copy guitars of the 70s are almost always really good or in some cases better than the US makers were producing during those years."

Your right about 70's guitars...

For about 15 years I had a blond maple-necked slab-bodied '66 Precision (sold it for not very much...I didn't know there were only 34 in the world like it. John Enstwistle bought nearly all of em). That was lovely - heavy but lovely. We all knew back then that 70's US guitars were no longer quality. Now, of course folks will pay big money - in the UK anyway - for 70's Fenders/Gibsons. Just coz they're old. But most of em are not good at all, I agree.

The two basses I've got now (one active Aria/one passive semi-acoustic Guild copy) are both Korean-made. Smashing.

alan said...

Anon #108,

Absolutely no worries about my being surrounded by deviant, pervert music type peoples...;-)

It is just nice to know.

anon #108 said...

Forewarned is forearmed, Alan.
You be careful out among the English!

john e mumbles said...

I bought my present bread and butter guitar, a beautiful Japanese-made sunburst Telecaster, back in 1989. I've had no trouble with it at all.

Most of my gear is Fender, amps, bass, acoustic guitars...

PhilBob-SquareHead said...

Carlos Santana once said that it wasn't in the equipment, but in the hands.

I took this to heart. Especially after unloading my Les Pauls, SGs, and digital recording equipment after my divorce in 2002. So I went and bought Mexican Fenders, solid-state amps and cheap Stomp boxes.
Same difference. (Though I crave a really nice Gibson electric the way I crave a wet 19-yr old beauty to writhe in my calloused hands)

alan said...

Anon. 108,

Wonderful giggles from your return post.

Thank you.


Mysterion said...
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CynicalBoy said...

A competition
For the best piece of woodwork
Put it on a shelf!

anon #108 said...

So, after many years proudly proclaiming my ignorance of, and disinterest in, anything to do with electric guitar history and technology, I discover I've become a minor guitar bore. It took a Zen Buddhist blog to bring me to that realisation. Some kind of enlightenment, I guess.

word veri = axiefin.

john e mumbles said...

Oh well, 108...minor, major, its all music to MY ears...

Blake said...

Brad said: I also dig lots of the Kraut Rock stuff like Neu!, Can and Kraftwerk.

The internet radio show I used to co-host on Friday nights played a shit-ton of German rock mixed with industrial, goth and the occasional trip-hop. The station is still up even though I no longer do the show there.

Also your cat puked everywhere. I thought you were taking him with you? WTF, man?

Ran K. said...

I’ve skimmed, or somewhat more than that, through the comments and it seems like the right place to mention that in my view the only “prog” band worth listening to is King Crimson. It would be untrue of “Can” and perhaps similar things but what I’ve heard of them doesn’t really sound like “progressive” rock. Though I don’t deny they are.

However – I don’t value the field so I’ve been quite happy not to listen to these things. Might be making a fool of myself due to that, but I don’t suppose so.

There seem to be videos of Crimson live in Japan in ’95 on YouTube which seem very nice. This channel. Though I thought they should have got Jim Kerr to sing for them.

Anonymous said...

108... no worries... yours is no disgrace :)

Ran K. said...

Here's the link. It doesn't seem to work.

And I thought I should have said else than 108.

And Barrett maybe. I've heard of things he's done but I haven't listened to them myself. (All I know of him is the "the Piper at the gates of Dawn" Which I could easily do without.)

anon #108 said...

Here y'are, Ran.

Wonderful, IMHO.

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harmonica man said...

Just one minute before the police hauled her off

Anonymous said...

she rocks!

mother earth said...


Believe me: It is no teaching and no instruction that I give you. On what basis should I presume to teach you? I give you news of the way of this man, but not of your own way. My path is not your path, therefore I cannot teach you. The way is within us, but not in Gods, nor in teachings, nor in laws. Within us is the way, the truth, and the life.

Woe betides those who live by way of examples! Life is not with them. If you live according to an example, you thus live the life of that example, but who should live your own life if not yourself? So live yourselves.

The signposts have fallen, unblazed trails lie before us. Do not be greedy to gobble up the fruits of foreign fields. Do you not know that you yourselves are the fertile acre which bears everything that avails you?

Yet who today knows this who knows the way to the eternally fruitful climes of the soul? You seek the way through mere appearances, you study books and give ear to all kinds of opinion. What good is all that? There is only one way and that is your way.

You seek the path? I warn you away from my own. It can also be the wrong way for you.

May each go his own way.

I will be no savior, no lawgiver, no master teacher unto you. You are no longer little children.

Giving laws, wanting improvements, making things easier, has all become wrong and evil. May each one seek out his own way. The way leads to mutual love in community. Men will come to see and feel the similarity and commonality of their ways.

Laws and teachings held in common compel people to solitude, so that they may escape the pressure of undesirable contact, but solitude makes people hostile and venomous.

Therefore give people dignity and let each of them stand apart, so that each may find his own fellowship and love it.

Power stands against power, contempt against contempt, love against love. Give humanity dignity, and trust that life will find the better way.

The one eye of the Godhead is blind, the one ear of the Godhead is deaf, the order of its being is crossed by chaos. So be patient with the crippledness of the world and do not overvalue its consummate beauty.

--C.G. Jung

john e mumbles said...

Why are you unhappy?
Because 99.9 per cent
Of everything you think,
And of everything you do,
Is for yourself —
And there isn't one.

— Wei Wu Wei

Ran K. said...

To Mysterion,

I have come to what I have said I would later come to.

I do hope you will take my advice, though it is later for you to see it as you will.

I would not advise this to many, but I think it might be a very good idea for you to study the scientific works of Rudolf Steiner.

You seem to value such things – I believe he had academic degrees in quite many fields. He is the creator of Waldorf education and biodynamic agriculture, but this is really not the point.

Even if you imagine yourself a man of science you might discover this is not to actually be the situation.

You have once commented that fluidity of thought should always be maintained. Particularly as to means of scientific investigation.

However put that aside too to come back to maybe after you have acquired some familiarity with the subject.

His most fundamental book is one to which I have posted a link earlier.

I suppose for about everything he writes (else than philosophical work which he has a few) you will need to at least be acquainted with the first part of this book.

I am confident that as for certain things he is wrong. However as for the general scheme it is to a certain degree, - not all - beyond mistake, as anyone sufficiently familiar - even at second hand - with the occult will agree.

You need not take my words.

I don’t expect you to and you should not.

However, - I’d say go into a thorough examination as much as your time allows you to.

When you unprejudicially examine the scientific model Steiner presents and objectively compare it to the familiar one, you might find out it better answer to demands of logic, - and with time - after getting used to it and allowing it to mature - to many others.

The link to the book online is here here and here you can find it otherwise.

I’d say check out Anthroposophy and see if you are slowly convinced of its truths.

Not necessarily all. This is another matter.

I would also mention - though it would seem irrelevant - that the understanding of the human soul fundamentally relies on the depth of one’s personality and not on the intellect. Attachment to the supposed value of one’s imagined understanding can be a barrier, and is likely to be if one is does not know the worthlessness of the intellect I might day one becomes familiar with on the cultivation of wisdom.

Also even the view of a person of a deep personality could be distorted and is likely to if dirty.

These last two paragraphs are not about Anthroposophy, but I thought I should include them never the less.

I have originally written this with regard to one of your posts, but I have now rewritten it and am posting it here.

As I might delete it you might want to copy it somewhere if you are interested.

I still have an intention of reposting a passage of Steiner I posted some time ago, so I might mention a few things about him then.

I hope not to exceed this, since this is a Buddhist blog and not one of another path.

- I might mention one last thing, - I am here referring to the spiritual science Steiner has attempted to create - and not to the path (or paths) to initiation indicated by him related.

So far,
that's it,

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