Sunday, January 03, 2010

TIGER WOODS MUST RENOUNCE BUDDHISM AND BECOME A CHRISTIAN

Here's an article (click here) you all might enjoy about how Tiger Woods ought to ditch Buddhism and become a Christian so that he can be forgiven for his sins. This was discovered by Rod Mead Sperry of The Worst Horse. What kind of Buddhist is Tiger, anyway? I mean, SGI? Pure Land? Tibetan? Zen...?

I'm not gonna comment much. Except that, yeah, Christianity does offer more forgiveness for sins than Buddhism, since in Buddhism there is no idea of sin to begin with.

I could probably go on & on about this, but I got stuff I need to do today.

Oh! And by the way, I've noticed that ever since Tricycle magazine ran an article about all the hundreds of warring commenters on this blog, all the warring commenters seem to have fled! Where are you guys? Now all those poor Trike readers who've only just tuned in are gonna think the writer was making that shit up.

58 comments:

Uku said...

Hahhaa, great picture!

NellaLou said...

You kicked us out Brad! We're all sleeping on Gniz's couch.

Harry said...

The warring bloggists must've seen the error of their ways from reading that Trike article and become Christians.

Hey, Uku, I know you're not into making a big deal of things such as enlightenment and all that, but, when you get First Post, our religion requires that you damn well strut a bit!

Regards,

Harry.

Uku said...

Harry, you filthy demon! I AM NUMBER ONE, everyone knows that! I am like God so I don't have to take care of stupid things like Enlightenment or Being Number One because I am The One! I am like Chuck Norris except Chuck Norris wants to be like me. I have shaved his butt.

Anonymous said...

Chuck Norris can get blackjack with one card.

Mysterion said...

Brit Hume is FAUX Snew's proof of the terminally stupid nature of mankind - especially on the 'wrong right.' ROFLMAO

Anonymous said...

The mention of Fox News and Tricycle in the same article is not coincidental, no? Seems the 'Whole Foods Market Buddhism' of Tricycle is not all that different from Fox News' version of Christianity. Both are corporate products marketed to wealthy Caucasian people who desperately need to maintain their perceived cultural and moral supremacy. Admittedly, I don't pay much attention to either, so maybe I am wrong?

Apuleius Platonicus said...

I guess I never realized before that Christianity is the religion-of-choice for serial philanderers.

Mysterion said...

Yes, you are inattentive.

Apuleius Platonicus said...

teh internets have made me lazy.

but here's a question: is hume speaking from personal experience???

Mysterion said...

a nony mouse sed:
"so maybe I am wrong?"

nobody is right where everybody's wrong.

Zafu Frog, Japan said...

Do you reckon he hits on the mokugyo with an 8 iron?

'hit on the mokugo' is a bad turn of phrase in this instance, eh?

Jinzang said...

Tiger Woods' mother was Thai, I'm pretty sure he's Theravadin Buddhist. Brit Hume said something stupid and the Blogiverse is all aflutter, but we know better than that, right?

Mysterion said...

Kill the Buddha with a Pitching Wedge?

Tiger Woods owns lots of expensive cars.
Now he has a hole in one.

What’s the difference between an SUV and a golf ball?
Tiger can drive a ball 400 yards.

Why was Tiger Woods' wife out at 2.30 in the morning?
She went clubbing.

Tiger Woods crashed into a fire hydrant and a tree.
He couldn’t decide between the wood and the iron.

Now, Hollywood will make a film based on this:
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Hydrant."

Mysterion said...

Blogger Jinzang said...
"Brit Hume said something stupid..."

To say the least...

Brit Hume is following his Christian faith...

Links: one, two, three.

There is a positive effect - Buddhism will be discussed and, perhaps, a few more Xtians will wake up. Wait and see.

Carl said...

Pray for the Christians. During this Bush/GOP depression, many churches are closing for [lack of] business.

And it's not just Texas, either.

GA

There are roughly 2,500 former Christian Churches on the block this week. Declines?

How many closed in your area?

right said...

WWTHS?

What would Ted Haggard say?

The way - to the light.

Eva de la Torriente Diaz said...

I KEEP ASKING MYSELF--- why so much hate, and scandal for something that has happened "millions" of times since God placed Adam and Eve on this Planet ???

What "The HECK is the big deal about Tiger Woods".-?????

The poor guy "is just human, for Christ Sake !!!!!

So he played around - So What ???? This is nothing new.-- "No Rocket Science".- " Billions of men do it, every single day !!!!!!!!

Tiger Woods is just "human".- And YES,--what he did was terribly wrong.-----But why so much "hate", so much "publicity", so much scandal for something millions of politicians, senators
(Remember Ted Kennedy)??? ----- -and so many other Presidents have done over and over again !!!!!

Remember John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe and so many other women he had in his life ??????? Many,--- who knew him well,--- say he had a woman for every single day of the week. !!!!!

And lets not even mention "Movie Stars, Directors, ect.- ---I would need a book !!!!!!

"So why the Double Standards" :.---? ----Why so much publicity about what " WOODS" did ? What about the others......... ?

Who the heck are we,- or anybody,-- to judge anybody else ????? Is it because he is rich, famous, popular, the best golfer in the world,----or is it because because he is colored, playing a White Men's Game ??????

He had "no idea" - what this "Indiscretions" were going to cost him-!!! - I sure hope he has learned his lesson.-

It never ceases to amaze me what "envy" and "hate" can do to some people!

Anonymous said...

"ever since Tricycle magazine ran an article about all the hundreds of warring commenters on this blog, all the warring commenters seem to have fled!"

Dude, once you appear in Tricycle (not to mention
blathering on about celebrity gossip), you most
definitely have jumped the shark.

Time for warring commenters to jump ship. Sayonara, baby!

anon777 said...

Brad, I think your participation here in the comments is the catalyst that calmed the waters.

alan said...

Anon @ 8:59,

Linking to a video to explain "jumping the shark" is a sure sign that some Anon may be jumping the shark themselves.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Still don't know what 'jump the shark' means, but now, thanks to HCZB I am not a total cultural rube, I know what show it comes from
my ignorance grows ever

Mumon said...

I actually scooped most Buddhist blogs here on my blog with Hume, and now, with Fox pundit Fred Barnes, who endorses Hume.

Moss said...

Arguments against Buddhism

noshimonoriku said...

Can you post the Trike article?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Still don't know what 'jump the shark' means..."

FYI

(FWIW ;)

Anonymous said...

Brad, I think your participation here in the comments is the catalyst that calmed the waters.

I think it is just that many people have lost interest and moved on. There are better places to practice or just spend time.

In fact, I think I will too.

Mysterion said...

Tricycle magazine
Dharma Wars
What is it about the Internet that turns Buddhist teachers into bullies?
By Zenshin Michael Haederle

Another factor accounting for online rancor may be blogs and teaching websites that promote an in-your-face attitude, says McLeod. “When people are meeting you through your website, that’s their first contact with you, and it had better represent you,” he says. Blogs and discussion forums open to the entire Internet encourage comments from total strangers, and while this often leads to cordial discussion, it also attracts people dedicated to having the last word—the know-it-alls who delight in denigrating others while touting their own dharmic understanding.

Brad Warner, a Soto Zen teacher and the author of several books, has seen this firsthand. In a recent thread on Warner’s Hardcore Zen blog, for example, a reader advised Warner to

shut the fuck up and go meditate. if you are really a buddhist monk you wouldn’t waste your time on a fucking internet forum. don’t judge others, judge yourself in meditation.

MORE

pasta man said...

BTW, "Right,"

that light switch is hard on - the light is powered.

Anonymous said...

An update on the Tiger Woods / Brit Hume hoohaa:

"On Monday night on the "O'Reilly Factor", Brit Hume had the chance to reiterate the personal advice he offered to Tiger Woods last Sunday morning: for a full recovery, the scandal plagued (and Buddhist) golfer should "turn to Christianity."

O'Reilly played a clip of Hume's comments, then asked him: "Was that proselytizing?"

"I don't think so," Hume said, and added that the content of Woods' character was "not what we thought it was."

Hume went on to reassert his belief that "Jesus Christ" offers something that Woods "badly needs."

"He needs something that Christianity especially provides and gives and offers, and that is redemption and forgiveness. I was really meaning to say in those comments yesterday more about Christianity than anything else...I think that Jesus Christ offers Tiger Woods something that Tiger Woods badly needs."

From Huffington Post

Anonymous said...

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Apocalypto said...

A little background on the circumstances of Brit Hume..

Brit Hume's son Washington journalist Sandy Hume was a reporter for The Hill and broke the story of the aborted 1997 coup against Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. In February 1998, Sandy Hume committed suicide in his apartment in Arlington, Virginia. In the months before his death, Hume, an alcoholic, had begun drinking again. The night before his suicide, Hume was jailed for drunk driving and tried to hang himself in the U.S. Park Police jail cell. He was evaluated at a psychiatric facility and released. He went home and took his life with a hunting rifle. He left a long note expressing shame at the previous night's events. Brit Hume commented on part of the impact of his son's death:

"I want to pursue my faith more ardently than I have done. I'm not claiming it's impossible to do when you work in this business. I was kind of a nominal Christian for the longest time. When my son died, I came to Christ in a way that was very meaningful to me. If a person is a Christian and tries to face up to the implications of what you say you believe, it's a pretty big thing. If you do it part time, you're not really living it."

Goodieb said...

Brad,

This isn't even related to your post but I was wondering why the heck you aren't included in this list:
http://www.elephantjournal.com/2010/01/vote-for-the-hottest-male-buddhist-blogger-of-2009/

In any case, I think you do good work. I'm a big fan.

anon #108 said...

Mysti -

Perhaps you were retreating at the time...

http://hardcorezen.blogspot.com/2009/11/dharma-wars-and-appolgies-to-canada.html

...and for the discussion see

http://rebloggingbradwarner.blogspot.com/2009/11/dharma-wars-baby-straight-outa-teh.html

anon #108 said...

Oh I see - - you were posting the thing in response to a request.

My bad.

"old dog" said...

Tiger Woods doesn't need to renounce Buddhism, he needs to not just be a "checkbox" follow of whatever religion.

Christians have it easy.
Step 1 - screw up. Get caught. Feel guilt about your sin and fear of everlasting torment.
Step 2 - Tell the Great Sky Daddy you're sorry, and convince yourself you'll never do it again.
Step 3 - feel better about yourself
Repeat as needed until dead.

Buddhists have to work harder.
Step 1 - screw up. Get caught. Feel guilt for the pain you've inflicted on others, and (if you like and your brand of Buddhism requires it) fear the karmic repercussions of your actions.
Step 2 - sit in the corner like an errant school child, thinking about what you did and try to understand how your actions hurt others.
Step 3 - if you sit in the corner long enough, maybe you'll figure out WHY you screwed up in the first place, and maybe think of ways to make it better for the people you hurt.
Repeat as needed until dead.

Christians don't have to take much personal responsibility. If you want, you can even blame Eve for your sins, or blame Satan for tempting you.

Buddhists can't blame anyone but themselves, and might even be required to perform actions to eradicate karmic weed seeds.

Anonymous said...

I knew another guy who became an ardent christian after losing a son. If you believe that you'll be reunited with your loved ones in heaven with jesus it can take some of the sting of death away. The pain of losing a child must be close to unbearable, leading one to accept all manner of delusion and hope, mediums, reincarnation, heaven.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:23
re: the jumping of sharks
Thank you Thank you I am in the know now,
now I know, no?


As for Tiger...

several bad inventions out there: the institution of marriage for one, the creation of money for another

both of these need to go back to the drawing board for a re-design

Michael Ende (author of many books--Neverending Story was one) came up with the idea that money shoud 'die'; that money would only be 'good' for a certain period of time, and needed to be spent (ie could not be hoarded)

Ende is supposed to have been very popular in Japan...but I don't know anything about that

ingfxora

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99 said...

If you can't tell, what are you doing here?

Anonymous said...

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breaking into heaven said...

Regarding Old Dog's comment on Christians' cycle of sin, rinse, repeat...

You know how Zen types tend to look askew at trippy new-age Buddhists? It's like "yeah, those guys are in the club, sort of, but they're missing the whole point. Meanwhile they make the rest of us look silly."

That's how most Christians would characterize the "Step 1, Step 2, Step 3" plan to get out of jail free. Yes, some Christians do think that way. But I've also met ardent Zen Buddhists who are counting on Amitabha to give them a spot in heaven.

Ran K. said...

If you want to clean your head from all that you've read so far: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoBQzU0VUHQ .

Also cheers for Jinzang at 5:50 PM.

(Wrong, though. If you got this far you must have noticed.)

Mysterion said...

"Like the Hindus the Buddhists also believe in the chain of many births and deaths before an individual achieves complete emancipation from it. But the comparison ends here. The Hindus believe that what passes from one birth to another is the Jiva, the subtle body along with the pure soul or Atman." source

Yet Buddha spoke: "If I held the ashes of my many passages (through birth-death cycles), they would be a mountain high."

Buddhist 3 step program:
1) you are born.
2) you suffer.
3) you die.

Repeat, if necessary.

Dan_Brodribb said...

re: breaking into heaven's comment - it's funny cause it's true.

Brian said...

re: breaking into heaven's comment -

While it may be true, Buddhists aren't the ones who are trying to make their religion into the law of the United States. The hypocrisy of many Fox News Channel commentators and too many politicians is shown by how many times they have indulged in what they call sinful acts, beg forgiveness, and still maintain that they are the moral arbiters of America.

Smoggyrob said...

Hi everyone:

Here's an article about secret chemicals used in the US. It's interesting, but the reason I mention it here is because the article states that there are "84,000 chemicals in commercial use in the United States".

84,000? Huh.

Rob

Moon Face Buddha said...

“War is a poor chisel to carve out tomorrow.”

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Anonymous said...

Just saw you quoted in a Yahoo! article on this topic, Brad. Movin' on up, you are.

Earth Resident never said...
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nobodr said...

Your first Tiger Woods quote..

"The plain fact is that no matter what he did or who he fucked it's really none of our God damned business. He's a golfer, for Christ's sake! What does any of this have to do with golf?"

Your quote from Yahoo News..

“I would first tell him to sit with the problem, look into himself and try to see clearly for himself what he needs to do,” Warner said. “The problem is something he’s got to work out for himself.”

The second quote sounds like you channeling Jundo Cohen.

myolzi said...

From Barry Graham's blog..

"Yesterday I got a call from a radio station, asking if I'd be interviewed about what I think about Brit Hume and Tiger Woods (which seems to have some Buddhist angle). I told the guy I'd never heard of Brit Hume, and that all I know about Tiger Woods is that he plays golf.

The guy laughed hard, because he thought I was joking. I wasn't.

"Wow," he said.

Of course, even though I didn't know anything about it, he still wanted me to go on the air and talk about it anyway. I didn't."

actfa said...

Haha nobodr!

Well spotted and amusingly pointed up.

ngondrogirl said...

yeah, i'm kinda disappointed that no one's here flamin' each other, 'cuz i was wondering if you (brad) were one of the people mentioned in the tricycle essay. see, i just picked up your new book at the library (sorry no ch-ching!) after seeing it mentioned on my tibetan buddhist community site (you get around!) and can barely put it down, and thought, "i bet that this fella is one of the people in that article!" but it is still fun to look in on your blog. now, back to the book!

Eric said...

lol, at the Buddhism and sex lectures page I read 'Please bring your own lunch or you may die'

which is probably true too

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It is not actually on religion but your relationship with God. You can ask for forgiveness regardless of your religion and ethnicity.