Tuesday, June 17, 2008

HELP

I am being held captive in a cell in San Quentin by my new boyfriend Bruno The Snake. I've managed to get access to one of the guard house computers through the exchange of certain "favors." Please, anyone, send help soon...**





** I'm kidding. OK? Please don't contact San Quentin on my behalf.

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Anonymous said...

if we all work together here

Anonymous said...

by gum, smoggy was right!
a brand new comments section!
let us choose to use it wisely!
(or not so wisely, as the case may be.

Turn the Page said...

Let's talk about something completely different now.

Anonymous said...

that sure was exciting for some pea brain.

Ray said...

For example, what does this term Engaged Buddhism mean?

I think it means Health. I think we are living in such a sick, ill society that we need to invent a term that refers to a normal healthy way of living and relating to those around us. Nothing wrong with that term, just to point out that it refers to ordinary healthy human relations.

When a person is healthy, there are four ways that person's relationship to other beings can be defined.

1) Friendly
A healthy person is friendly to others.

2) Compassionate
A healthy person will want to help someone who is in pain.

3) Happy for Others' Happiness
A healthy person will feel happy when others feel happy

4) Equanimous
The above three are possible because a healthy person sees themself as the same as others.

Strive for health.

disabledme said...

Hmm, I think that the spamming will lead Brad to finally disallow anonymous comments...

Mysterion said...

My hat's off to smoggy too.

gniz said...

It does seem like this "community" is kind of poisoned in some way...take treeleaf.org, run by Jundo Cohen (who Brad seems to deride frequently). I am not a member of Tree Leaf Sangha but the discourse there seems much healthier, and there is debate and disagreement as well in the forums.

Now, granted, this comments section is totally unmoderated, but some of the worst offenders in terms of nastiness and worthless posting seem (in my opinion) to be the most frequent posters.

In other words, the core audience of Brad's blog (or the vocal ones)seems to be composed of people who create a really nasty atmosphere of flaming and put-downs.

I think its a top-down operation and I think it says as much about Brad's teaching and writing methods as it does about the commenters themselves.

And yes, i understand that goes for me too.

Aaron

will said...

a bit on topic, i went to a prison(as an observer)for a school sociology class. right from the beginning i knew it was going to be an experience. someone was yelling from one of the many caged windows"you in the gray, im gonna fucking kill you!!". i looked around at the 8 other students and noticed i was the only one with gray on...damn. off we went. inside we were introduced to a prisoner wearing a shower robe and a Prince -like doo-rag eating yogurt in what can only be described as 'creepily'. he warned us how "you don't want to come here". he is right. next was the womens side. the women did seem nice, flashing there robes and asking if we wanted some of that. even if i did i don't think i would be up to the task. besides the fear, the female guard with the full beard wasn't doing it for me. finally to top of the trip they did the obligatory 'take the largest meanest prisoner and have him lecture us with all the brand new words he learned from studying the dictionary and scare the hell out of us' shtick. i must say it worked. and you know whats funny? he did mention rape

Anonymous said...

I think gniz is pissed at Brad.. again.

ray said...

I used to smoke a pack of unfiltered cigarettes each day. The pain it produced distracted me from moments when subconscious psychological pain was trying to come to light. Nowadays when I pass a smoker on the sidewalk I notice myself feeling a bit pissed off at them. But then I remember my former condition which helps me to see the reality of what they are dealing with. So I see my anger, hold my breath, and say a little prayer for their well being as I pass.

I once expressed a lot of piss and venom like I used to smoke. Same deal for that expression, nowadays.

This situation is actually quite precarious, quite dangerous. The potential for extreme pain is high and death is certain. Better to play it on the safe side, I say.

Anonymous said...

Aaron of the treeleaf fans: how much you want to bet that some of those very same 'play nice' posters in the supervised sandbox come over here with their sharp pointy elbows and stick poke in the eye stuff--because they can.
This is the self supervised side of the playground. This is wall gazing with your own mental graffiti on it. Those who can stomach the blogged archives can review their efforts posted here. Intent to harm? Intent to be helpful? Intent to share experiences? Blog the blog you would like to see.
The Internet is a wide frontier there still is pioneering going on. You want a nicely supervised preschool where you can put your flowers, unicorns, and rainbows go to a regulated managed blog space. This is middle school the situation is a little different adults wander in and out but we (and they) know no one is in control. We all have to live with the consequences not only of our actions but of the perceived actions as well. I find it to be quite the workout and sometimes I'm not in the mood, but then I just stay away for a while

PA said...

Cool. That's a lot of comments!!
Brad, you should put some ads on your blog. You'd get loads. Then you could bribe the guards to let you out.

Elliot said...

Good luck, Brad!

FYI: if anyone drops a bar of soap don't try to pick it up. Just a suggestion but by all means trust your instincts.

ray said...

Blog the blog you would like to see.

+1

gniz said...

I'm not pissed at Brad at all. Look, i read his stuff, some of it's good. A lot of it isnt. Often i dont comment on stuff i agree with...maybe i should jump on more and say "awesome!" but to what point?
Also, i had no real problem with what he wrote about prison and was very surprised to see it generate so much discussion.
But like i said, whats most interesting is the type of person that seems to be a Brad "fan" or defender.
Very caustic, sarcastic posters who never hesitate to throw a barb or a putdown. I think thats a pretty interesting comment on what kind of person is attracted to his work.
I think treeleaf is not grade school, it seems to have its share of nastiness and dissent. But there's a level of respect present there which is encouraged by Jundo.

Brad's writing encourage sarcasm and disrespect. Thats my thesis. Its interesting like watching a car crash is interesting, it doesnt necessarily bring out the best in me. Doesnt mean i dont keep coming back for more.

Mysterion said...

"Brad's writing encourage sarcasm and disrespect. That's my thesis."

Brad's writing encourages openness - even thoughtlessness. That's neither good nor bad. Words like good and bad only have meaning relative to each other.

"Yet here, Laertes! Aboard, aboard for shame!
The wind sits in the shoulder of your sail,
And you are stay'd for.
There ... my blessing with thee!
And these few precepts in thy memory
Look thou character. Give thy thoughts no tongue,
Nor any unproportion'd thought his act.
Be thou familiar, but by no means vulgar.
Those friends thou hast, and their adoption tried,
Grapple them to thy soul with hoops of steel;
But do not dull thy palm with entertainment
Of each new-hatch'd, unfledg’d comrade. Beware
Of entrance to a quarrel but, being in,
Bear't that th' opposed may beware of thee.
Give every man thy ear, but few thy voice;
Take each man's censure, but reserve thy judgement.
Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy,
But not express'd in fancy; rich, not gaudy;
For the apparel oft proclaims the man;
And they in France of the best rank and station
Are of a most select and generous chief in that.
Neither a borrower, nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.
Farewell; my blessing season this in thee!"

"After all, all he did was string together a lot of old, well-known
quotations."

-- Henry Louis Mencken on Shakespeare
source

Dan Weber said...

Brad, don't worry about all these haters; I'm gonna send you some smokes and an old toothbrush (you can sharpen the end and make it a shiv....) Hey, thanks to the new laws in Cali, you and your boyfriend can get married too. A few prison tats and things will be looking up!

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If we can only joke about subjects in which no one has ever been harmed, that doesn't leave a whole lot of material to use.

Anonymous said...

I think some people get angry at Brad because he refuses to be what they think an enlightened person should be, whatever that is.. It seems like many people still hold onto a lot of hope for the E word.

Rich said...

"I think some people get angry at Brad because he refuses to be what they think an enlightened person should be, whatever that is.. It seems like ..."

That might be true but the fact is that Brad says things which stir up peoples past hurts and negative feelings. I don't think it is intentional but at the same time he has a responsibility to make the situation better for them which I hope he will do.

babbles said...

@ gniz
Also, i had no real problem with what he wrote about prison and was very surprised to see it generate so much discussion.
But like i said, whats most interesting is the type of person that seems to be a Brad "fan" or defender.
Very caustic, sarcastic posters who never hesitate to throw a barb or a putdown.


I personally could not disagree with you more and I think in a sense you did somewhat contradict yourself in this.

On one hand you describe people who like Brad caustic people who enjoy the insulting of others. Yet on the other hand you are surprised that this blog created so many comments. How that ties in is that these comments, though, are not from "caustic Brad fans" but rather from people jumping to conclusions and calling Brad, essentially, a very bad person.

Doing a quick skim of the comments again - read thru them once and sure as hell not going to reread that many items - it appears that most of the caustic-like comments are coming from people who enjoy ripping Brad apart at every available opportunity. I did not see a lot of "Brad defenders" belittling people when available.

I realize this makes me sound like some sort of Brad apologist and I would rather not be seen that way. I don't know the guy, he doesn't know me, but I do enjoy his blog. Anyhow, I like to think I can look at this entire thing objectively and when it is looked objectively - well most of the dialogue here is pretty damn silly.

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Anonymous said...

That guy now writes in a more guarded style with less obvious undermining but is still doing what he always has.

And I think he sees himself and Brad as being "Very caustic, sarcastic people who never hesitate to throw a barb or a putdown." Basically he dislikes Brad because of wrongly perceived personal similarities.

PhilBob-SquareHead said...

Rich said:
" I don't think it is intentional but at the same time he has a responsibility to make the situation better for them which I hope he will do."

Who decided Brad had a responsibility to ANYONE?

Roman G. said...

Ok, the comments section has completely gone to shit. Worthless "post countdowns" and mean-spirited put-downs that have no worth other than to aggrandize the posts's author. I'm done with it.

Brad, go ahead and shut down the comments section on all your blogs. Those who really have something valuable to say will go to the extra effort of writing you a good old-fashioned snail mail letter in care of your publisher.

Harry said...

Any good jokes?

I mean, if we're going to do this over throwaway statements we may as well get a chuckle into the bargain.

Here's my favourite:

Guy to Doctor: "Doc, I've got a sharp pain in my left testicle and I'm really worried about it"

Doctor: "Hmmmm, yes, well, first thing you'll have to do is to stop masturbating."

Guy: "Why's that, Doc?"

Doctor: "Because I'm trying to fucking examine you!!!"

Regards,

Harry.

Ryushin Sean Malone said...
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Ryushin Sean Malone said...

You think your some kind of great Zen Master, but your really not.
Your just some guy breathing like everyone else...
There is no great teaching in what you wrote there.
All you got is writers personality, and it's gross and offensive.

Ryushin Malone

mtn oyster yankee said...

231 comments and I don't have anything to say. Damn!

Betty said...

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Neither do I.

Thors Dae said...

I marvel at thor losers.

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Anonymous said...

engaged buddhism means you're not married yet, but you're more committed than just 'going steady.'

Anonymous said...

I challenge any teacher of any lineage to put up a wide open blog space--where the dear and anonymous roam freely--
Like Brad's here...
stand back and see what happens.
Wouldn't you like to see what all those 'students' do in the 'comments' section when they have an opportunity to be completely free and unidentified?
Pent up behind the placid smiles of discipleship is a whole lotta stuff.
Teachers know how to get this stuff out and on the table. How you rate a teacher: bad, so-so or good depends on what happens next.
For a teacher to know what is under the surface, there needs to be a place for it to emerge, a way to flush it out of the shadows. Not so the teacher can 'catch it,' or 'catch you with it,', but so you can see it for yourself: what is in your shadows.

As messy as it gets here, hands down I'll bet you the hater posters don't even sit with Brad. And I'm going to bet the most virulent ones probably haven't read his books, or heard him give a talk or even met the guy.

Hater posters have an axe to grind. I think that's not such a bad thing in the long run. If I had a dearly held belief or a teacher I had on a pedestal and someone's statements caused me to question what was unquestionable to me before, I'd hate it too. And my first question would be 'who in the heck is this person to say these things?' ' No one has the right to shatter my illusions like that!.'

It's not 'what Brad Said' in the ulta-marathon--(It might be 'what Brad said 'in a sprint)--but in the ultra-marathon it's what I do about the feelings and thoughts as they arise about what I perceive of what was said.

On kpfk Something's Happening show on night I heard Pema Chodron say? "There's only one mantra--you can boil all of them down to one:
OM.......Grow Up! .......Svaha!"

and the fact that some of us chortle at adolescent humor or stir our bowl of ice cream until it is 'soupified' and then eat it....well, it doesn't mean we aren't grown up, it just means our personal humor department prefers a certain moronic category and ice cream brings out the little kid in us.

Anonymous said...


engaged buddhism means you're not married yet, but you're more committed than just 'going steady.'


damn if this isn't probably entirely accurate. check out the 1st stanza from the 37 practices of a bodhisattva:

Now that I have this great ship, a precious human life, so hard to obtain,
I must carry myself and others across the ocean of samsara.
To that end, to listen, reflect and meditate,
Day and night, without distraction, is the practice of a bodhisattva.

Anonymous said...

didn't brad write in his books that even the so called "enlightened" still need to work at it nor are perfect people?

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Anonymous said...

c'mon now only 40 to go and we get a brand new comments page

woowhoo!

race you to the bottom!


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Anonymous said...

I believe you meant 60

well, actually 59 now

Anonymous said...

Will someone please give the counting prodigy
a lollipop and send her back to Sesame Street?

I'll take caustic comments over counting
any day.

BTW, thanks to smoggyrob for turning
a smoldering annoyance into an
irksome conflagration.

Anonymous said...

In order to increase the signal-to-noise ratio,
here are some suggested Rules of Brad Blog:

The First Rule of Brad Blog is
Don't Mention Counting.

The Second Rule of Brad Blog is
Don't Mention 9/11.

The Third Rule of Brad Blog is
Don't Mention Brad Blog.

That's it. There are no more
Rules of Brad Blog.

Anonymous said...

Brad's writing is more influenced by Moe than Curly.

There are those who believe the reverse; their view is that of the non-Buddhist, Senika.

Anonymous said...

The fact that his writing is influenced by two out of three stooges ain't bad
even if more by one than the other

BTW who is Senika and why are they non-buddhist?

Brad Blog Rules rule!

Anonymous said...

There is something gone terribly wrong here.
Everyone can smell it yet we engage it.

Remember the L.A. Riots.

Terribly wrong.

Muso Kokushi said...

It is better to practice a little than talk a lot.

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zen porn addict said...

Doesn't this discussion belong on the Porno Buddhist blog?
http://pornobuddhist.blogspot.com/

Harry said...

"Brad's writing is more influenced by Moe than Curly.

There are those who believe the reverse; their view is that of the non-Buddhist, Senika."

Ha!

At last someone has detected the workings of that excellent philosophical system: "The Theory of Three Stooges, One Reality".

I would bow to you, brother or sister, but I'd only get it in the backside... A COMIC BOOT THAT IS!

This is why these comments should be allowed to ramble, nyuk nyuk nyuk.

Now, let's pretend to be pissed off with each other again.

Regards,

Harry.

Anonymous said...

Go Obama!

Anonymous said...

Buddhism has been understood as a kind of idealism, and sometimes it has been understood a kind of nihilism. If we do not understand Buddhism on the basis of realism, Buddhism can never be understood. - GN

Rich said...

Philbob said
"Who decided Brad had a responsibility to ANYONE?"

The child finds an injured bird or maybe a lost baby fird and tries to help it regain its strength and survive. The child doesn't consider the notion of responsibility. There is joy and satisfaction in helping the bird. The child doesn't think I am not responsible because I didn't cause the bird a problem or the bird is not in my yard so I don't have to help. This child mind knows when to help. I don't know who decides but we all have to help.

Kobutso says to do solitary sitting and learn compassion. That's what we need to do to return to child mind.

Anonymous said...

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0-255 that's it.

Anonymous said...

ah, what the fuck
here's another eight bits
0000 0000
take it to 65,535
but do it in hex
knock yourself out

0x100

Anonymous said...

One more Rule of Brad Blog:

If this is your first time at Brad Blog,
you HAVE TO comment.

Anonymous said...

> Go Obama!

Obama is an AIPAC Uncle Tom.

Support the conscientious objectors.

Anonymous said...

Go Obama girl!

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PhilBob-SquareHead said...

Dear Rich,
Are we to abandon humor and remain silent in order to not offend anyone?

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Anonymous said...

it is not my place to judge.. but, are these counters like even more mentally ill than the rest of us?

Mysterion said...

Anonymous Anonymous sed...
"...are these counters like even more mentally ill than the rest of us?"

LOL, I certainly HOPE so...

Ga-Sho-Nuff
O-cha-ryu

I still like 1/2 the links... well, almost 1/2

Anonymous said...

yeah, it's weird.. these counter guys are like totally neurotic.. very, very frustrated guys. but that's cool.

Rich said...

PhilBob said:
Are we to abandon humor and remain silent in order to not offend anyone?


Be humorous, express yourself. If someone is hurt or hurting help them, even if it is saying one word.

Count Dracula.

Anonymous said...

rich, you should not abandon humor. and you cannot avoid hurting others. all you can do is to try not to. fragile personalities will be damaged by a crossway's glance. it's their lot.

Anonymous said...

Who is the real LOVE guru?

Mtroll said...

"Buddhism has been understood as a kind of idealism, and sometimes it has been understood a kind of nihilism. If we do not understand Buddhism on the basis of realism, Buddhism can never be understood"

I agree with the ven teacher 2/3of the way. Buddhism isn't idealism. Buddhism isn't nihilism. But neither can it be understood on the basis of realism. It can't be understood on the basis of any doctrine or ism whatsoever, including buddh ism.

Realism, in epistemology, the doctrine that the external world exists independently of perception; in logic, the doctrine that universal or class ideas (e. g., man) have objective realities corresponding to them.

Seng Tsan's poem says:

When you assert that things are real you miss their true reality.

But to assert that things are void also misses reality

Mysterion said...

Puns in scripture (even occidental) is a path unto itself. There are puns in Ikkyu's poetry. There are puns in the Pali Sanskrit. Puns, everywhere puns.

Ga-Sho-Nuff-Yo
O-Cha-Ryu
(Tea, in Nest)

Mysterion said...

Five perspectives of Buddhism:

Silence: In Buddhism, true Silence (Zazen) leads to Truth by avoiding both words and emotion because in Silence is Truth.

A visiting philosopher once asked the Buddha, “Without words, without the wordless, will you tell me the truth?” Buddha kept silent.

After a while, the philosopher rose gently, thanked the Buddha and left. Ananda, a senior disciple of the Enlightened One, enquired: “O Blessed one, what has this philosopher attained?” Buddha replied: “A good horse runs even at the shadow of a whip!”
source
Paul Reps, "Zen Flesh, Zen Bones," pp. 119-120.

Received Knowledge: Knowledge comes from authorities, not from oneself or peers. "Authorities" know the single right answer for each problem. Those who look for received knowledge believe in a sharp dichotomy of right and wrong, a belief typical of dualistic thinkers, and they foolishly accepted the pronouncements of authorities.

Subjective Knowledge: Knowledge from external authorities is rejected in favor of an intuitive feeling. This move towards independent thought, and inner strength. Although it is an advance over silence and received knowing, the subjective knower still contains characteristics of the dualist and absolutist.

Procedural Knowledge: relying on procedures, criteria, and reasoned judgment is one thing. But knowing how to analyze, follow a disciplined method, and be objective leads to independent thinking.

Constructed Knowledge: gained by one's own search for meaning. One acknowledges the relative and uncertain nature of truth. Truth is a matter of the context in which it is embedded. From a perspective that acknowledges context, one asks questions about context during inquiry.

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