Monday, February 04, 2008

FEAR (More Beer?)

A little clarification before we begin. A long time ago I put a note on the top of this page that says, "I enjoy getting your e-mails. But please be aware, if you send me e-mail, I may use it in a blog either here or on Suicide Girls." The note is over there to your left, down the page about a 1/3 of the way. I wish I could put it up higher.

Anyway, this applies to all e-mail I get in response to articles and books I've written or questions on practice and suchlike. If you don't want what you say to be published, please tell me. OK?

With that in mind, here's a little question from a reader some of you might enjoy:

Hey Brad,

How's it going? I'm a fan of your books. Read Hardcore Zen twice and am now reading Sit Down and Shut Up. Just for background here, I've been meditating daily for 5-6 years, and doing shik-an-taza (that might be spelled wrong) for a bit over a year (and am just starting to feel decent at it).

I've got a problem I'm not sure how to handle, and was hoping for some advice. My dad died about four years ago, and since then I've helped take care of my mom quite a bit. I've also been a stress case since then. Recently, probably through meditation, I realized that I'm stressing at all times about death, or to be more descriptive, a fear of death and, conversely, a fear of messing up my life. I'm scared to make any wrong action for fear of being hurt, or of doing something wrong that will make my life go the wrong way. When friends or family are going on a trip, I constantly worry they'll get into an accident or something, and feel I need to give all my time to them before in case something happens, as I don't want any regrets either. This is a problem. I can't really go about my life because I'm constantly worrying about shit. And I do know it's shit, and nothing more (at least intellectually). Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for a saviour, but if there's an action I can take, or any idea you have, that would help me, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again brother,



Thanks for writing. I wish I had a magic solution to your problem. But there isn't any.

Ultimately even your most deep seated and seemingly real fears are just thoughts. Everyone fears something. The problem has nothing to do with the specific nature of the fear. Whether it's fear of death, or fear of high places, or fear of ducks in bowler hats, it's still the same stuff.

It's very hard to root out fear. You'll probably never succeed completely. I don't think anyone, even Buddha himself, has ever succeeded in getting rid of it all.

One thing that helps me is to face it down. Nishijima Sensei said something to me once like, "I always try to look at hated information." Meaning if there's something specific you fear it can often help to study that thing carefully. In my own case I used to have an intense fear of Huntington's Disease, the hereditary ailment that killed my mom. Then I just went out & read all I could about it. I was terrified to do this. But what I found in that literature was just a bunch of smart people throwing around theories. They really didn't know anything. That study helped a lot to remove my constant fear of the disease. The fear still pops up in my mind now and again. I just know there's no sense paying attention to it.

The fear of death and of messing up your life is just a thought loop in your head. It means nothing. You don't have to believe it. You never have to believe yourself.

I hope this advise has some use to you.



joe_ratz_@_v_c said...

Long-winded ARTICLE

Death, and the Fear of Death doth great religions make. Paul's Xtianity and Moohoohoo hahahaa mad's Islam fall neatly into the "Death Cult" camp.

Mysterion said...

Life and death

We have a "life instinct" that pushes us to become individuals, competent and independent.

We have a "death instinct" that pushes us to be part of a family, community, or humanity.

The "fear of life" is the fear of separation, loneliness, and alienation.

The "fear of death" is the fear of getting lost, stagnating, being no-one.

But avoiding these separations is, literally, avoiding life and choosing death -- never finding out what you can do, never leaving your family or small town, never leaving the womb!

So we must face our fears, recognizing that, to be fully developed, we must embrace both life and death, become individuals and nurture our relationships with others. SOURCE

Blake said...

Between death and cake, I always choose cake.

plaudertasche said...

It's only a thought.
That realization really helped me to face/overcome/tackel/disempower my fears.
The simple act of not runing away from it or trying to not have it (my favorite), sometime is all what's needed. No big thinking match in which you involve your demons and give them ultimately more power ...just acknowledging: Hey look I fear that. How about it?! How does this one feel compare to the one about flying, dying, hurting, ect, ect.
It can be really entertaining when you reach the point of not taking your thought (self) so serious anymore. Good luck!

ellen said...

my favorite buddhist bumpersticker ever:
"Don't Believe Your Thoughts"

a friend who went on month-long retreat described the "worst" part of it as "well, one week I was just believing my thoughts!" brr-r-r-r! scary.

PA said...

"You never have to believe yourself."
No matter how many times I read/hear that idea, I never tire of it.
Genius, methinks.
Now, if I could just do it...

Anonymous said...


Mysterion said...

In Zazen we can explore separation, loneliness, and alienation.

In Zazen we can also explore getting lost, stagnating, and being no-one.

By exploring these fears in Zazen we might, in time, conquer them.

In the simple act of serving tea, we can become individual, competent and independent. The way of tea is thus the way of life.

bravoshark said...

Being male in America, growing up through the 70'-80's fear was always seen as a bad thing to me. I always wanted to be one of the tough type of guys. The first fear I identified within me I immedietally had to confront and over power. The method I used proved a much different kind of result. I was afraid of snakes, and mice as well. So, what better to do than get a big boa that I have to feed rats to.
Over the years of having the snake, 'Terminator' (Hey, I was a kid) I did much study on reptiles. I learned and became so familiar with them it helped me get past the fear. It sounds like you tried to take the same tactic, as well. If you are afraid of death by disease of accident, start looking at statistics. Unless you are in the double digit %'s, is there any need to really stress?

Anonymous said...


"Beef, beef, beef, beef bologna!"


"Fuck Xmas!!!!!!!!!!"

I wonder whatever happened to Lee Ving?

Anonymous said...

I have an irrational fear of red-headed strangers.

Jacques de Molay said...

I have a fear of people who say: "Triskaidekaphobia"

White Gloves


Anonymous said...

talk about passive aggressive

CrankyBuddhist said...

I had a fear of drowning when I was a kid, so I joined the diving team.

It helped.

(It was springboard diving, btw).

I wouldn't suggest dying to get over your fear of death though.

Anonymous said...

I have David-Lynch-o-phobia.

icebucket said...

"In Zazen we can explore separation, loneliness, and alienation."

Does that technically require Zazen?

Whilst I share the opinion that Zazen "leads" to many of those possibilities my experience was often that Zazen emphasizes certain aspects that are also available outside the formal sitting as well.


icebucket said...

masterion, LOL!


Arturo said...

Hi Brad
You made reference to emailing you, but I don't find your email on the site or on the profile.
Cheers, Arturo

Arturo said...

Perhaps we're to infer that the email would be your (screenname-nospaces) at the yahoo dot com?
thanks, Arturo

Anonymous said...

thank you for your diversions, oh long winded MASTURBION ..

Anonymous said...

It's true that fear is just a thought loop in your head. It's also often a physical feeling in the body. It's quite helpful to feel the feeling, because it's more tangible.

It's actually very helpful just to feel your fears, feel the physical aspect and watch the thoughts, seeing them as thoughts. The more you can feel your fears, giving them your complete attention, the less power they'll have over you. I think that's what Nishijima meant.

If you go on long retreats, your fears will come up, if you're a fearful person (as I am). And you'll get a lot of chances just to sit with them, both on and off the cushion.

My meditation practice has been a great help in dealing with fear. You're never rid of them completely, but when you learn just to be with them, they have much less power over you.

My father died when I was sixteen, and I spent years feeling just as you do.


dan said...

"Perhaps we're to infer that the email would be your (screenname-nospaces) at the yahoo dot com?
thanks, Arturo"

brad's email address is on his website not his blog. Remember to read the FAQ's!

dan said...

"Perhaps we're to infer that the email would be your (screenname-nospaces) at the yahoo dot com?
thanks, Arturo"

brad's email address is on his website not his blog. Remember to read the FAQ's!

Bauhaus said...

You fear the lesson and fear to walk
And fear to pass on your fear to talk
The teacher was feared your parents too
Then you became the fear of you
Look to yourself climb over the wall
And see behind that you're not so small
Then you won't blame fear when competing's too much
As you fall on your back as you fail to touch
And i say to you when your fear is strong
When you fear your life then your fear is wrong
Set free your past so shredding the skin
Then you won't fear the fear of sin

Bela Lugosi's Dead said...

Bela's undead

Bela Lugosi's Dead said...

Bela's undead

esmerelda_verde said...

Growing up I thought my Mom was too fearful and cautious she was always worried about one thing or another. As a result I went out of my way to do anything that scared me. Plus everything that anyone told me not to do. My best friend in high school used to call me 'Fearless Leader'. (Yes we were big Rocky and Bullwinkle fans, I called her Boris)

I'm not sure it was a good strategy. I have done some really dumb stuff and almost died a couple of times, but it hasn't been dull. It works too, hardly anything is as bad as you fear it is, including death.

Anonymous said...


vertical_codeman said...




Jinzang said...

I wish I had a magic solution to your problem. But there isn't any.


icebucket said...

See, a toad wants to become a god.


Mondo Primo said...

Thanks Brad. I was just going through another ritual bout of terror when I read you blog. Pointing out the mechanics of fear is as good a remedy as exists, I guess. Until my Fairy God mother shows up.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the question.

Thank you for the answer.

Rich said...

to me fear is a normal everyday occurrence. I use fear to take the correct action for survival and healthy living. It starts out as a feeling and if I pay attention to it, I'll feel a little nervous, more aware and then calm, ready for action. If I don't pay attention to it, it will turn into stinkln thinkin and could even turn into a panic attack. So I'm very careful to pay attention and do what I need to do regardless of what others might say or do. I need to take 100% responsibility for my life and my actions. You could say believe in yourself 100%and just keep trying.

georgia said...

lee ving played "mr. body" in the movie "clue"

Anonymous said...

"believe in yourself 100% and just keep trying."

right on!

arnold j rimmer said...

Fear is not necessarily a bad thing--it can be a pretty good motivator. When I was in my early twenties, my dad died of leukaemia as a result of long-term exposure to gasoline and farm chemicals. Looking back, I think it was the fear of death that kicked me out of my navel-gazing funk and made me get on with life. For one thing, I started Karate, and kept at it for the next 15 years or so.

On the other hand, I still think Brad said it best in his SG article: "We'll face anything else to avoid the terror of confronting our own hearts and minds". I think it was this fear that finally drove me out of Karate--it was like a slow leak, just a constant drain on whatever fighting spirit I had. Then my mom died of ALS--probably the most horrific way you could ever wish to go, and fear was replaced with despair, depression, and an awful certainty that the only thing that lay ahead was old age, infirmity, and death. So why the hell bother with all those stupid push-ups and sit-ups and bruises, black eyes, broken toes and all the rest of it, when it's all downhill anyway? It's horrible day when you stop fearing something and you just know without a doubt that it will happen.
Now I find myself in my mid-40's in a new, weirdly hopeful space. I'm motivated to get fit again and ultimately get back to Karate, but the weird thing is the motivation is coming from the fear that I'll survive! I'm afraid now that I'll live into my 80's and look back and kick myself for pissing away the last 40 years or so.

I guess the point is if you don't face your fear, it's just going to eat away at you and everything you do will just confirm it. And by "facing your fear" I don't mean stepping into the ring and getting your face smashed to get over your fear of pain (been there, done that, got the dain bramage...)I mean just sitting with it, being with it, and realizing that after all the screaming dies down you've still got a life to get on with.

Lone Wolf said...

Thanks Matt. Thanks Brad.

dave said...

Sorry, I guess I should have signed that as "dave"instad of "arnold rimmer"--you know, Dave in "Wank"-couver...

die_yet_peptic? said...

February 5, 2008 - Vital Signs
Symptoms: Metabolic Syndrome Is Tied to Diet Soda

Researchers have found a correlation between drinking diet soda and metabolic syndrome — the collection of risk factors for cardiovascular disease and diabetes that include abdominal obesity, high cholesterol and blood glucose levels — and elevated blood pressure.

The scientists gathered dietary information on more than 9,500 men and women ages 45 to 64 and tracked their health for nine years.

Over all, a Western dietary pattern — high intakes of refined grains, fried foods and red meat — was associated with an 18 percent increased risk for metabolic syndrome, while a “prudent” diet dominated by fruits, vegetables, fish and poultry correlated with neither an increased nor a decreased risk.

But the one-third who ate the most fried food increased their risk by 25 percent compared with the one-third who ate the least, and surprisingly, the risk of developing metabolic syndrome was 34 percent higher among those who drank one can of diet soda a day compared with those who drank none.

“This is interesting,” said Lyn M. Steffen, an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of Minnesota and a co-author of the paper, which was posted online in the journal Circulation on Jan. 22. “Why is it happening? Is it some kind of chemical in the diet soda, or something about the behavior of diet soda drinkers?”

DL said...,0,2808108.story

Lets see us blender this up in cheese factory of milk

peace to all . Be kind. Good intentions to all.


Koudelka said...

"Is it that they fear the pain of death
or could it be they fear the joy of life?"

I always thought that was a pretty cool lyric.

In my experience, it's not productive to run away from fear or suppress it, 'cause by the same way it's still there as long as you react to it.

After doing zazen pretty steadily for a few months I'd randomly start discovering shit that I was afraid of, and after I could just admit that I was afraid of something and fully let it through, it seriously changed my outlook to a significant degree, to really discover what fears are real and what i'm manufacturing in tune with my own bullshit.

Aside from all that, maybe try being brazen for a while, hopefully without hurting anyone.

I always liked this Alan Watts quote too: "We cannot be more sensitive to pleasure without being more sensitive to pain."


ratboy said...

Jundo Cohen wrote a lengthy defense of Brad on ESangha yesterday.
The only thing religious people love more than fighting amongst themselves is coming together in order to fight others outside the sect. Jundo said Brad only attacked other teachers on doctrinal, not personal grounds. Just like the protestants vs catholics, shia vs sunni. Us vs. Them. Endless sectarian crap and division.

Anonymous said...

Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self.Self Vs. Self................................................................................................................................................................................................

Anonymous said...

I found it. I get his point I think. I don't think he's completely wrong.



I have debated whether I should post here, and I decided it would be better that I did.

Brad and I are of the same Lineage. It is a Lineage that is home to several very different people, with very different personalities and styles. I have only met Brad a few times personally, though I have been a close observer of his activities for all these years from within our Lineage. I usually describe myself as his dull older brother, and he is my crazy kid brother (though, in truth, he is just a few years younger than my 48 years and with Nishijima Roshi for several years before me).

Over the last few years, I have grown more and more critical within the Sangha of some of his activities. In fact, I even went so far as to ask my teacher to declare my own Treeleaf Sangha as independent, because I was not happy with the situation (Nishijima Roshi granted me that last year). Brad and I have butted horns a few times. But, in order to explain that, I would actually like to defend him here a bit ...

-- Brad was always first and foremost, I think, in the mold of those fiery, wrathful Tibetan Dieties who turned their power against ignorance. He is as serious a Zazen teacher as you will encounter, and rarely if ever has turned his words or actions against people (he has been a critic of some other Buddhist teachers, and in the strongest terms ... but almost always for doctrinal reasons.). If you look closely at his fire, it is almost always directed at what he considers to be the fake, hypocritical, deceiving or harmful in the Buddhist world or in society, and his wrath is emitted in the cause of hard Zen practice. If you ever met him, he is gentle, soft spoken and kind ... very unlike his written persona. If you look at his writings very closely, he is using vitriol and ugly language against falsity and ignorance, not against people. (His most recent article was in no way in support of the lifestyle he described, if you read it closely).

-- As was noted by someone (I cannot find the quote right now), he speaks to a generation that is completely different from the generation of 'old codgers' and ex-hippies that are most current Zen teachers. I can see in my own Sangha that I have trouble relating to many folks in their 20's (and younger) or early 30's, and Brad succeeds. His first book attracted hundreds and hundreds of people to Soto practice who never would have started and so many of those folks have stuck with it and gone deeper (I have a bunch in my Sangha, and others probably do too). One of his recent projects has been to write for an online magazine aimed at the folks with the body piercings and tattoos ... Brad makes a darn good argument that folks like that need to hear about Buddhism, that Brad is one of the few teachers equipped to talk to people like that, that in order to do so he needs to speak their language. If you look closely at his writings, he is not approving the lifestyle (certainly, he is 100% anti drink and drugs), and is preaching Buddhism to folks it is hard to preach to. If you want to talk to folks, you have to go where they hang out.

That being said, I have been a strong critic of Brad very often. I think he sometimes forgets his real intent and falls into shock for shock's sake. I thinks he often overdoes it and comes across as petty and mean. In fact, this week, I publicly let loose on him with both barrels ... certainly I myself forgot "Right Speech" in the process, something I regret. I described the way he runs his website as resembling the "Jerry Springer" TV show or a circus... shock shock shock and dirty words wrapped in a fishwrap pseudo moral talk (at least, it comes across that way even if he is sincere). I am disgusted because I feel he has overstepped a line several times in recent years. Whatever his intent, it does not come across well.

On the Precepts, I agree with Rev. Nonin. and Anders. I could not have said it any other way myself. I do not manage my own Sangha in any other way, and we treat each other with kindness and dignity. We take the Precepts as being at the heart of our Practice, hand in hand with Zazen.

I am sincerely embarrassed by this. I have spoken with my teacher about it and, due to his age and language limitations, I don't think he understands. I am not popular at all with Brad and his fans because I have spoken out a couple of times. All I can say is I am personally sorry.

Gassho, Jundo

Anonymous said...

is Zen faith based

Anonymous said...

I getting tired of all this.
I going back to Bukowski, Whitman, Camus, Hesse, there's poetry

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

No income goes to Genpo-- none. Not from workshops, not from book, not from classes or talks. Genpo Roshi recieves a simple salary like any other employee of the Center. He drives an old car and lives in a modest house. As a charitable organization, money is not required to attend any function of the Kanzeon Zen Center or the BigMind/BigHeart seminars. Out of all income (tax-exempt 501 ©(3) organization-- we been through this before folks-- google: tax 501 c 3
and you'll get the straight talk from the IRS tax people-- and you can bet they check their facts better than Brad does.) Income is used for housing monks, paying staff employees, scholorships for those wishing to study and short of funds (including BigMind Seminar), for the buildings that house the Zendo, kitchen, meetings, residence and offices. Go there and look around.

Yeah, i know, i'm sorry, I'll get over it. This **** is gonna keep coming up.
_/\_ thanks for listening. ~ fluffycoyote

This post has been edited by fluffycoyote: Yesterday, 04:45 P

Anonymous said...

the maharishi yogi rocks

Smoggyrob said...

Hi everyone:

Dogen Sangha Los Angeles, the group that's grown up around Brad's zazen class, is looking for a place to sit on Wednesday evenings (6-9), somewhere in or around Los Angeles.

What we need is some floor space with a wall to stare at, and a sincere desire on your part to not be paid fairly for your kindness (i.e. free). We'd be happy to clean the place up or do other work (a little samu never hurt nobody), but we can't afford to pay. As a group, we're still in the red.

I'm hoping that one of you out there is thinking right now, "What the hell am I going to do with this centrally-located room with central heating, a small kitchenette (for tea), and gated parking?" But I'll settle for, "What the hell am I going to do with this dirt-floored garage?"

You can contact me using my Thank you for your time and attention.


Anonymous said...

You can sit on the corner of 6th and Alvarado. There might be a couple of hookers but hey...............

dave said...

Hey, since we seem to be off-topic anyway, how would you folks out there respond to Robert Spencer's "Jihad Watch"? A dear old friend of mine, whom I thought was one of the more reasonable Xtians around (has a better grasp of evolution than I do) has taken it into his head to start spouting this guy's nonsense. I'm trying to come up with some reasonable arguments (read: work up the guts to talk to him about it--there we go, that ol' demon fear again), but honestly it makes me ill having to deal with this stuff. Whatever. I just get really nervous when people start saying "THEY represent a THREAT to OUR WAY OF LIFE".


Andy said...

Depending on how messed up you think your life is, please don't think that therapy is anti- thetical to your spiritual pursuits. There's a good chance you're feeling alot of guilt for some reason around your father's death and your obligations to your mom. Talking it through with a professional might help you with your life and your spiritual practice!

Mysterion said...
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Jules said...

Ran across this recently. Hilarious video spoof on Sushi bar etiquette. Thought some of you would appreciate it.

dood said...

we're all going to die from life (the continuous-original cumulative trauma disorder).

take care,

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

These are (mainly) translations of the Japanese Zen master Dogen Zenji (1200-1253) including some commentaries by Zen teachers. See also the Dogen Studies page under Zen Essays.

Soto Zen Text Project:
Some of the greatest translators of Dogen have come together to translate Dogen under the guidance of the Japanese Soto sect. Translators come from places such as Komazawa University, Stanford, Yale and UCLA. The project is far from finished but the following are now available:

Note: links are at the top of page and include Introduction, the translation and notes.
(See also Carl Bielefeldt's talk:Translating Dogen: Thoughts on the Soto Zen Text Project

arakan (the Arhat) by Stanley Weinstien
jinzû (Spiritual Powers) by Carl Bielefeldt
kaiin zanmai (Ocean Seal Samadhi) by Carl Bielefeldt with Michael Radich
katto (Twining Vines) by Carl Bielefeldt
kobutsu shin (Old Buddha Mind) by Carl Bielefeldt
raihai tokuzui (Getting the Marrow by Doing Obeisance) by Stanley Weinstein
sansui kyô (Mountains and Waters Sutra) by Carl Bielefeldt
shoaku makusa (Not Doing Evils) by William Bodiford
tashin tsû (Penetration of Other Minds) by Carl Bielefeldt
zazen gi (Principles of Zazen) by Carl Bielefeldt
zazen shin (Lancet of Zazen) by Carl Bielefeldt

The Dragon's Howl, from Thomas Cleary's Rational Zen, the Mind of Dogen Zenji. (I've interspersed Cleary's comments throughout this essay.)

Gakudo yojin-shu: Guidelines for Studying the Way: gives the first 5 (of 10) parts to this essay. Taken from Moon in a Dewdrop.

translations of this seminal text by
Robert Aitken & Kazuaki Tanahashi
Thomas Cleary
Reiho Masunaga
Nishiyama & Stevens
Shohaku Okumura: 3 lectures on different parts of this text
Gary Fuhrman has linked 8 different translations together so comparisons can easily be made between each section of the writing. Recommended.

Tenzo Kyokun: Instructions for the Tenzo; translated by Yasuda Joshu Dainen and Anzan Hoshin.
Commentary on this text by Mel Weitsman

Kuge: Flowers of Space translated by Yasuda Joshu and Anzan Hoshin

Uji: Dogen's essay on time translated by Reiho Masunaga.
Another translation by Dan Welch and Kazuaki Tanahashi from Moon in a Dewdrop by The Moon in a Dewdrop; writings of Zen Master Dogen Translated by Dan Welch and Kazuaki Tanahashi
Commentary on Uji by Dharmavidya David Brazier

Zenki: Translation by Thomas Cleary

Gabyo: Painted Rice Cakes translated by Yasuda Joshu and Anzan Hoshin

Understanding the Shobogenzo : quite a long essay by Gudo Nishijima. Includes his explanation of his SOAR structure (subjective, objective, action and real). Also includes his translation of the Genjo Koan essay. The introduction to each of the essays from Nishijima's translation of the entire Shobogenzo is available here. These introductions give Nishijima's translation of the Japanese title

Mysterion said...
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Mysterion said...

corrected error:

Full Translation of Dogen's Shobogenzo

Mysterion said...
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Anonymous said...

I fear torture
no matter whether
it's called waterboarding, rape,
or "cruel and unusual punishment".

I fear governments run amok
and the idiots and assholes
who make this happen.

I fear stupidity and brutality.

Death will be a welcome relief.

Mysterion said...
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Koudelka said...


"Don't let the troubles in your head, steal too much time, you'll soon be dead."

Quit being so selfish and melodramatic. If you really think those things are a problem then quit pussying out and fight the people that push that kind of an agenda. Instead of sounding all world-weary and cynical, you just come off sounding like a little bitch. Just because some people in the world suck ass, it doesn't mean that a quiet stream is any less beautiful or that french toast doesn't totally rock. You choose to be terrorized.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, you left out
"enhanced interrogation"
--that's a good one.

Too bad there's no such
thing as instant karma;
it would be very satisfying
to see "a tooth for a tooth,
an eye for an eye" implemented
instantaneously upon
those who initiate such.

Y'know, Cheney & Co. dragged
through the streets and
lynched as they ought to be
(after a fair trial, of course).

Anonymous said...

Sounds like it's time to get medieval.

Maybe that Tigress chick is ahead of the curve.

Anonymous said...

speaking of torture, I always thought that the
method was probably the most effective

that is, until I heard about the
method used at Abu Ghraib

good, old American ingenuity

Anonymous said...

Don't worry, be happy!

Silly Rabbit, Trix are kids!

Anonymous said...

Always look on the bright side of life!

wiley said...





"IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, THE WAS GOD’ .or something like that. I’ll get the correct quote in time



The secret in the diet coke is the "LIQUID LIGHT" Duh!!!!

Mysterion said...
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wiley said...

The five magical 5th dimensional words.

1. Jot Niranjan

2. Omkar

3. Rarankar

4. Sohang

5. Sat Nam

Start meditating with these magic words for at least 30 minutes a day to begin with and increase your meditatiing time to 2 hours a day as soon as possible. Repeat them in the exact order that they are.

Do the meditation excersize before drinking lots of diet coke in the 20 oz and 1 liter sizes (with caffeine) in the plastic bottles only. Along with a double-quarter-pounder/with cheese meal at McDonald's only. Always meditate 30 mins to an hour before eating. Try to eat at least one meal a day for a while. Go back to my web site periodically to see if you can start to feel the magic after reading a few paragraphs.


Jules said...

I don't know how this got so far off topic, but what the heck.

Mysterion wrote... Drink Diet Soda and gain weight!

Correlation does not imply causation. Of course the diet soda drinkers are heavier. What could possibly motivate a skinny HFCS soda drinker to switch to diet soda?

Jules said...

It might also have something to do with the triple bacon cheeseburger and super-size fries that often gets ordered alongside the jumbo diet Coke. People who drink lots and lots of diet coke often have other dietary imbalances...

dan said...

I can't tell whether wiley is taking the piss or not.....

Mysterion said...
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mayan said...

In the beginning

Ron Paul Voter said...


wiley said...

I told you already: Obama is Illuminati aristocracy.

His appearence from NOWHERE, and subsequent rocket to the front of the political line are no coincidence.

It is because he is of the Sang Grael. He is related to the royals.

Don't ask me to back this up with sources, because I'm only REPEATING what I've heard.

You are a multidimensional Being whose blood stream contains the six following precious metals. They are: GOLD, PLATINUM,IRIDIUM, PALLADIUM,OSMIUM and RHODIUM.

Mysterion said...

wiley sed...
"Obama is Illuminati aristocracy."

Hmmm... is insanity catching this season?

GeorgeWashington said...

Michael Tsarion - your Sang Grael link author - is an odd lot. He is an OTO, not a Freemason.

Not that anyone would care, but OTO is a collection of nuts and bolts.

When Carl Kellner died in 1905, Theodore Reuss assumed (OTO) leadership. His grant of authority to Crowley was limited to heading a subsidiary of the O.T.O. called the Mysteria Mystica Maxima.)

Real Masons (UK HERE California Variety)look at OTO as being irregular - illegal. Many of America's founding fathers were Freemasons who were certainly NOT Illuminatti.

George Washington wrote: "I believe notwithstanding, that none of the Lodges in this Country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the Society of the Illuminati." HERE

icebucket said...

Hmm? No more Zen, but we rather go with BOB and have some FUN.



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